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Demon Lord Razgriz
Post subject: The Hundred Year Ship, BurkeSpam into SPACE!Posted: June 1st, 2011, 12:00 am
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A new surface combatant, previously designated DDG(X), has become the DDG 51 Flight IV, scheduled to begin in 2032 with two ships per year through 2041, except for three ships in 2036. The move means the basic DDG 51 Arleigh Burke-class design, first procured in 1985, will be bought continuously for at least 56 years.
Glorious BurkeSpam shall go on til the End of Days! o/

But seriously, use the same ship(abet upgraded) til almost 2100 given a possible 50 year Lifespan? Now that's running a design into the ground. :/ And we don't even have Flight III yet...

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Post subject: Re: The Hundred Year Ship, BurkeSpam into SPACE!Posted: June 1st, 2011, 4:03 am
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Not as bad as the millennium missile, the Sidewinder.
"Air Force Spokeswoman Stephanie Powell noted that due to its relative low cost, versatility, and reliability it is "very possible that the Sidewinder will remain in Air Force inventories through the late 21st century."

But on topic, wouldn't the new hulls be, well, new? Presumably the flight IV and possibly III (idk) would incorporate stealth features, making it a viable combatant.

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Post subject: Re: The Hundred Year Ship, BurkeSpam into SPACE!Posted: June 1st, 2011, 4:55 am
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The big difference between a Burke and a sidewinder in this situation is that the Sidewinders mission is unlikely to change in that timeframe.
Not so for the Burke.

It should also be noted that once you open it up, the Sidewinder of 2011 would be almost unrecognisable to a technician who worked on the 1956 version.

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Post subject: Re: The Hundred Year Ship, BurkeSpam into SPACE!Posted: June 1st, 2011, 7:49 am
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Wait didnt i told this like 6 years ago?
But na, all those Americans kept saying US navy would only get Futuristic super ships.

Whahahaha. This is so funny.

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Post subject: Re: The Hundred Year Ship, BurkeSpam into SPACE!Posted: June 1st, 2011, 1:45 pm
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Flight IV might as well be futuristic super ship. Hard to imagine all of the technology (that works) from Zumwalt not being folded in.

Of course we could get into nationalistic dickswinging contests if that's what the forum community would prefer.


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Demon Lord Razgriz
Post subject: Re: The Hundred Year Ship, BurkeSpam into SPACE!Posted: June 1st, 2011, 3:33 pm
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I'd like to see a technical discussion on what the Flt IV might look like.

Given space issues, I can see the hull being lengthen, and perhaps widen. And nuke propulsion perhaps with reactor developed from those to be used on SSBN(X)?

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Post subject: Re: The Hundred Year Ship, BurkeSpam into SPACE!Posted: June 1st, 2011, 5:41 pm
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I'd suspect it'd have less clutter, and have a more "stealthy" superstructure. But because VLS allows new missiles in old launchers, the weapons shouldn't change too much imo.

Edit: Also obviously new radars, and thus new (or no) directors, etc

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Post subject: Re: The Hundred Year Ship, BurkeSpam into SPACE!Posted: June 1st, 2011, 5:55 pm
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Demon Lord Razgriz wrote:
I'd like to see a technical discussion on what the Flt IV might look like.

Given space issues, I can see the hull being lengthen, and perhaps widen. And nuke propulsion perhaps with reactor developed from those to be used on SSBN(X)?
If EMC2 gets the Polywell reactor working then we could be looking at a drop in replacement for the engines on all of the Burkes, as that is one of the target plant sizes.

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Post subject: Re: The Hundred Year Ship, BurkeSpam into SPACE!Posted: June 2nd, 2011, 4:59 pm
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If the Burkes and other ships go to 70 years (and this I have trouble beliving, Father Ocean is hard on small tincans) is it possible some class of ships may go 100 years of active service and I mean real service, not tied to a dock or goes out to sea twice a year or so. Has this ever been done?
This would be the same as the HMS Indefatigable still serving today. (Which gives me an idea for a AU ship or two) ;)


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Post subject: Re: The Hundred Year Ship, BurkeSpam into SPACE!Posted: June 2nd, 2011, 9:04 pm
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While ships of the Burke heritage will be serving for 70 years, I doubt any individual hull is imagined to serve for more than the usual 30-40.


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