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I first developed these boats after tinkering with Heuhen's 50m yacht design, militarizing it. These particular boats were designed for my AU, more specifically for WASO, the organization on NS dedicated to combating slavery and human trafficking.

The Kynsi-class intercept boat was envisioned and designed mainly to intercept slave ships and provide rescued slaves with medical treatment and accommodations, as well as detention of captured human traffickers. It is essentially a weaponized 50m yacht, equipped with a range of weapons, including M2 Heavy Browning 12.7mm machine guns, M134 Miniguns, Mk19 automatic grenade launchers, Bushmaster Mk38 25mm guns, and even 105mm guns, depending on the variant. The Kynsi-class is designed as a rather modular design and can come in several configurations; some have flare launchers, some can carry cargo and supplies, some even have UAV helipads. Each ship in the class is named in Finnish, as per the particular naming convention. The standard base armament is an M2 HB 12.7mm HMG, M134 Minigun, Mk19 automatic grenade launcher, and LRAD. They are all also equipped with medical facilities to treat wounded boarders as well as any liberated slaves in need of emergency medical attention.

The 4 main boats are as follows:


WUNS Kynsi, lead ship. Carrying M2 HB 12.7mm HMG, M134 Minigun, Mk19 automatic grenade launcher, LRAD, 105mm gun, Bushmaster Mk38 25mm gun, large smoke grenade launchers, a winch, and an RHIB for boarding parties.


WUNS Hai, with standard armament plus a Bell Eagle Eye UAV and comms tower. The comms tower can be used for longer-range radio contact or to assist controlling the UAV. The Eagle Eye is used for scouting missions to locate and conduct surveillance on possible slave ships. If needed, it can be outfitted with 2 individual Hydra 70 rockets for use against small escort craft and aircraft such as "sniper drones".


WUNS Miekkavalas, with standard armament plus an RHIB and flare launchers (see drums at bow).


WUNS Vapauttaja, with standard armament plus a trainable expanding ladder for boarding parties and evacuations, with a collection of stretchers in the aft deck.

All critique and commentary is not only welcome but greatly appreciated.

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Very interesting concept, and certainly in line with current threat scenarios; i e small, extra-governmental groups of raiders and pirates operating from lawless littoral areas. I've been thinking about converting one of the big US carriers (a conventionally powered one!) to an emergency and relief support vessel with hospitals and food- and cargo carrying capacity etc. It'd operate under UN flag with an international crew (preferrably volunteer ex-navy crews!)

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Well first off, the mission you describe and the boats you've drawn doesn't match up.
The ships you've drawn are short legged and unstable. I'm assuming you want to catch the slavers in international waters. In order to do that you need a ship that can stay at sea for a long time. Having a manned helicopter would be a great asset since it makes your search radius much larger and it allows you to put a small search party on board suspected slavers. A proper RHIB is also a must. A decent surface search set would be a great plus.

What you want is something like a US Coastguard Medium Endurance Cutter. It's fastish, has great range and endurance (App. 10.000nm), stable, superior sea keeping and a proper helipad. If you ad a hanger for a small helicopter it gets even better.

Anyway, on to the ships themselves.
PG 1: The 25mm will be unworkable in anything but the calmest weather. If I'm not mistaken, the 105mm started its life as a towed artiellery piece and as a result you would be lucky to hit a barn a 50 paces, let alone the barn door. And like the 25mm it would be unworkable once the seas starts to build up.
The underwater hull has no outline.

PG 2: The new mast makes little point. Just enlarge the existing mast and ad whatever antennas you need there. A 3m whip antenna is enough for a MF/HF radio. Any longer ranged communication will use satellites.
The gun on the bow will be unworkable in any kind of seas.
The helipad is going to be very whet which is bad for the UAV

PG 3: See above about the gun. Deploying and recovering the RHIB is going to be extraordinarily hard from there. Those things are heavy.
That is a lot of flares, yet without a proper radar set to control them they won't be of much use.

PG 4: As many Somalian pirates have learned the hard way, using a conventional ladder to board a ship only works in the calmest of seas.
Your arrangement is going to be even worse because it can't hang of the target since it's fixed at the bottom. Plus, all the guns on your ships implies the slavers are armed which would make entering the ship along a long and narrow ladder suiciadal.

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These boats were designed to be operated in calm seas in semi-littoral environments. They are designed to be part of a larger effort, and in most cases something like the Coast Guard cutters you described would be used. Typically Kynsi-class boats would serve a support role and be occasionally used for night ambushes in calm waters, with support of the larger contingents. Part of the ambush role would involve deception, trying to make it appear pirate-like.

Onto the ships:

PG-1: It is designed for calm, semi-littoral waters and the 105mm is designed more for muscle than precision support.

PG-2: Yes, the mast was a dumb idea, an attempt to toss something back there in a more idiotic moment some months ago. To remedy the effects of salt water, the UAV would be encased when not in use.

PG-3: The flares are designed more for illumination during raids by other groups. The RHIB would be launched by a large team and conduct ferrying roles; it would not be recovered by the yacht but by another ship following raids.

PG-4: The ladder would rarely be used to launch a raid, but more as a quick way to recover wounded or liberated slaves in need of medical attention. The ladder, with proper rigging, could also be used as a crane.

In conclusion, there are many scenarios in which using these thongs simply would not be an option. Many of these systems employed are highly experimental and may or may not be removed depending on their effectiveness.

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It won't be able to hit anything, making it a liability rather than an asset. I also doubt if the deck is capable of withstanding the recoil. And if you do manage to hit the ship, you're likely to kill or injure the very people you're trying to protect.
And just because you're in coastal waters doesn't mean the water is calm.
This picture was taken just four miles of the coast of Denmark.

This has been tried since helicopters first went to sea and the conclusion has always been that it doesn't work.
Also, we're not just talking about it getting whet, we're talking about it getting knocked about and maybe even overboard.
That sorta makes sense,however you'd be better of using night vision gear. The RHIB doesn't. In order to launch it you'll need several people to lift it over the pyrotechnics and then throw it over the side and hope it doesn't end up upside down. If it does overturn, righting it will not be easy due to the weight involved.
Whether you're going one way or the other doesn't change the fact that the ladder will be swaying all over the place.

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Kynsi But otherwise nice, thougth bit odd things. The 45 angled gun doesen't thougth look best possible thing to be place onboard.

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Again, the whole thing is an experimental venture. Normal, proper slave rescues would be conducted with the methods you described (manned helos, cutters, etc). This was more of an experiment in conducting rescues veiled as random piracy. Large portions of it may very well end up being scrapped.

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Other than the issues others already pointed out, I opened your drawings in Paint and removed the camo to see the design better, and I noticed some pixel errors in the bows and some of the windows.

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Ask Heuhen about those. He drew the boat originally as a civilian yacht he saw. I repainted it and decked it out with the missionized equipment.

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I see.

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