Shipbucket

Sorry, but I disagree. In my point of view deserve incredible work of art (the ships!) well looking badges. This badges are made original with some finesse for the heraldic background and is a symbol for the identicy for each vessel. When it's decided you can't take a good picture of a badge and then minimize it, but you have to make it in pixel art there will be some limitazion in how small you can make it and though keep the heraldic quality. That's my point of view: quality follows quality

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Work in progress:
DD County Class PNS Babur (1982)(PAK)
FF Type 21 Class D182 PNS Babur (2000)(PAK)
All relevant Coat of Arms

Ok, just to be clear: I'm not trying to prove anything here nor to convert anyone into my way of thinking.
Just out of curiosity I tried to make one of the badges (found in the first post of this thread) smaller.

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Worklist: Portuguese Navy and Barnegat class seaplane tenders

Yep, in a way I like it. You can see both the tree and the five stars BUT... You can't see the excact star constellation and the tree is a tree not thee tree
I realise that we are out in a discussion of perception right now. It's important to state I fully agree that the most important thing in our drawings is the SHIPS What divide us is apparently how much a badge will change focus or not. If you are fond of the badges from war ships and think it gives the ship an unique identity you'll like to present that in the best manner to promote the ship. That's how I see it and therefore make an effort to do the badges correct as possible. Anyway, we also do compromises on the ships to do them in SB-style, and I also have to do compromises (I don't like it ) in drawing the badges. In my own mind I scaled down to that minimum for most of them as tolerable.

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Work in progress:
DD County Class PNS Babur (1982)(PAK)
FF Type 21 Class D182 PNS Babur (2000)(PAK)
All relevant Coat of Arms

With all due respect to all members (and thanks for the contributions), the decision on crest/badge sizes will be made by the admin team, as part of the review of templates. I'm only mentioning it here to save bezobrazov's excellent thread from going too far 'off topic'

Yes direct the badge discussion to the CoA thread...it is the proper place to set the size rigth

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New AU project "Aravala"

Aye, aye captain. You're quite right

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Work in progress:
DD County Class PNS Babur (1982)(PAK)
FF Type 21 Class D182 PNS Babur (2000)(PAK)
All relevant Coat of Arms

Now, having sorted out the badge issue helpfully, how 'bout comments on the ships themselves, or have we exhausted ourselves?

If any kind soul out there might have a picture of the Brasil when just commissioned (and with, presumably the 76 mm OTO-Melara on her bows!) please share!

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Accourding some of my books it's was planned, and never fitted at the bow.

Back to bussiness, back to the main issue: I think these vessels look magnificient and as always very well drawn. Unfortunately I'm not capable to participate in the more tecnical part so I can't comment on that

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Work in progress:
DD County Class PNS Babur (1982)(PAK)
FF Type 21 Class D182 PNS Babur (2000)(PAK)
All relevant Coat of Arms

just when you think you are done

http://www.naval.com.br/blog/wp-content ... alante.jpg

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