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Members of the Shipbucket community, welcome to the Cold War Self-Propelled Air Defence System Challenge. You task, outlined in the requirements and rules below, is to draw a mobile Cold War era air defence system capable of keeping pace with advancing units. This topic was derived from suggestions in the future challenge ideas thread and chosen by popular vote following the Modern Stealth Corvette Challenge. Please read the design requirements and challenge rules before posting a submission. Remember that each participant is allowed a single drawing and that specifications can no longer be listed in that drawing.

Design Requirements

1. Your entry must depict a fictional air defence system capable of engaging helicopters and low flying aircraft.
2. The air defence system should be self-contained in a single self-propelled vehicle.
3. The vehicle should be sufficiently mobile so it can keep pace with advancing motorised or mechanised units.
4. Your design must enter service at some point between 1947 and 1991.

Challenge Rules

1. Each participant may submit one drawing.
2. The image must be an FD template modified to include the participant’s system and, optionally, crew figures at their stations within the system or one of the following: unit insignia, manufacturer logo, national flag. Other elements are no longer permitted.
3. No more than three views are allowed in each image.
4. If two or three views are included, they must depict the same example of the system, in the same configuration, at the same point in time.
5. All art must be in FD scale and conform to the same drawing and shading rules as official Shipbucket styles.
6. A textual description accompanying each submission is permitted, but not necessary.
7. Non-serious entries, or entries substantially deviate from the challenge requirements, are not allowed.
8. Off-topic posts will be reported to the relevant authorities.

This challenge will run until Sunday the 18 of September 2022, ending at 23:59 UTC-12 (International Date Line West).
A countdown timer can be found at this link.

A poll will be held after this date. Members of the Shipbucket community will have an opportunity to rate each submission. Please provide honest and meaningful scores for each entry. Responses which grant maximum scores to a select group of entries, and minimum scores to all other entries, will be deleted. Members of the community who manipulate the results in such a fashion may also be subject to a permanent ban. Scores will be allocated in two categories, each with a scale of 1 to 10:

• Drawing Quality - The overall quality of the drawing. One might consider detailing, shading, and accuracy.
• Design Quality -The quality of the design presented, irrespective of drawing quality. One could consider feasibility, practicality, and realism.

Hemvaernet IR-85 Luftvaernsrobotsystem m/32 team on a Gallan Motors Rymdig 248-88


Lvrbs m/32 missile team, operating within the limits of the system, as it is designed.

The motorization of the Gallan Home Guard has always relied extensively on Galla's own domestic automobile industry, exclusively operating domestic equivalents ("clones") of foreign made designs when possible, but preferentially edging towards fully indigenous design. One of these is the rather unusual RM248 scooter, stripped of its commercial ABS plastic, and fitted with a new aluminum body. Although not as capable as the regular Army's AK800-derived motor bike, the RM248 is substantially cheaper, and more importantly very familiar with most civil drivers. It is one of the most common motorbikes for intra-city commuting, giving drivers of the Home Guard's infantry regiments a lot of "baked in" experience in using it both on- and off-road. While the ordinary RM248 is often used for commuter travel or light load carrying, the engine is relatively unstressed, and this makes it an excellent and reliable basis for a military transporter. The depicted '88 series features stainless steel tires, which were replaced by aluminum alloy tires in the '96 series. More modern versions of the bike, such as the '18 series, incorporate advanced "fog vision" modes on the electronic speedometer, giving an approximated view of the road with a W-band inclement weather radar for detection of obstacles in low visibility conditions. Early models, such as the '88 and '96, only had the speed, miles, fuel gauge, and temperature listed.

The 248 cc 1-cy SOHC outputs 20 HP at 7400 RPM, giving the RM248 a top speed of about 65-70 mph light loaded, more than sufficient to keep up with the rest of the missile platoon vehicles, and maintains a maximum speed of around 40-45 mph when fully loaded with crew and ammo. Ordinary movement speed in convoys is rarely greater than 30 miles per hour, however, meaning that the RM248 is rarely stressed significantly, despite the large mass loads placed on it by two fully kitted Guardsmen (~420 lbs) and missile system (~75 lbs). Unlike the civil model of the RM248, part of the military modifications included stronger shock springs, giving the RM248-88 a more extensive ability to carry the mass without damaging the frame, although it remains somewhat underpowered for the task in general. Taking this into account, the later IR-85M Regiment, first equipped in 1994, included a second bike for the missile teams, carrying the TADS display computer and VRC FM radio pack, while the missile system and gunner were transported on the first bike. Additionally, the heavy aluminum body would be replaced by lighter CF reinforced GRP, itself stronger than typical ABS plastic and lighter than aluminum, on the '96 model.

Military modifications of the '88 series include the replacement of ABS plastic with aluminum hard shell, the addition of grab handles on the back for the passenger, a rear trunk with a storage tray for a VRC-type field radio and upper area for storage of the IFF interrogator and gripstock. Finally, the TADDS (plan position indicating alert computer), which connects to the VRC and the tactical alerting radar (TAR) in the battery headquarters which allows the missile team to orient themselves to incoming targets picked up by the TAR (20-km range), is stored on the rear trunk, below the VRC. A whip antenna is often mounted on the left side. Spare battery-cooling units are stored immediately behind the rear position on the bike. As the RM248 is a two seat scooter, the gunner and NCO, the latter typically a Lance Corporal (lanskorpral) and the former typically a Guardsman in rank, both ride together, forming a full team. Two missile rounds are carried on the left and right sides of the scooter, immediately below the handrails. Code input computers, used for programming the EEPROM of the IFF interrogator are carried in the section headquarters.

The basic load for a missile team is one IFF interrogator-computer, one gripstock/IFF antenna, one VRC manpack radio (5 W), four battery-cooling units, and two missile all-up-rounds (AUR). Further spare and support equipment (including additional missiles) is stored in the section headquarters, including a single IFF code computer and cryptographic programming equipment.

Similar modes of transport are used for the Pansarskott m/98 (PS98) 5" (127-mm) anti-tank rocket launcher, intended for light infantry company use as an intermediate between the light 84-mm grenade and longer range 5" or 6" anti-tank missile. Both crewmen carry Ak58K carbines, smaller .223" Short (5.56x33mm) caliber rifles intended for vehicle crewmen (aviators, truck drivers, and the like), either on their back (for the team leader) or in a holster on the right side of the bike. Like most motorcycle crewmen in Galla, the guardsmen wear standard Army three-quarter helmets with a face shield, but they can be allowed to wear their own helmets provided they meet or exceed the Army standard, as the NCO depicted wears his personal modular-type helmet.

The Lvrbs m/32 missile was designed to replace the 1960's-era Lvrbs m/22 MPADS, a 2" diameter missile based on the Navy Type 2-53 2" aerial rocket motor, with a simple radio guidance package installed. The Lvrbs m/22 was considered somewhat of an improvement over the platoon machine gun, which was the primary anti-helicopter weapon until the m/22's introduction in 1962, and not considered a serious threat to fixed-wing aircraft, instead being designed to be carried and fired rapidly with a unique two-shot design. Guidance was achieved via radio command line of sight using a small thumbstick mounted on the gripstock, with the intention being the engagement of low altitude, propeller driven aircraft and attack helicopters on the approach. Unusual for its time, this game the m/22 a full all-aspect engagement capability and rapid-follow up, although the 2" motor's short range made tail engagements difficult. The m/22 had a maximum range of about a mile.

This system was abandoned rapidly with the adoption of the Lvrbs m/32, a 3" diameter rocket body but similar guidance package, in 1974, with a range approximately thrice the m/22. However, the m/22 was exported to Ynglia, where it inspired the development of a 3" diameter missile using the m/32 motor body and domestic radio guidance kit, the Bristol Bellows, which was received about as warmly. Nonetheless, Ynglisc missile designs diverged significantly from Gallan, until the 2010's with the adoption of the Morris Marten, a 3" diameter super-accelerating IR guided missile unusually similar in design to the m/32, albeit incorporating laser beamriding. Conversely, the Gallan Lvrbs m/56, adopted in 1997, resembles the Bristol Bantam, a 4" diameter missile adopted in 1977 by the Ynglisc Army.

The Lvrbs m/32 was improved in 1978, and again in 1985, with new guidance systems: initially a combined IR/UV seeker and then again with a digital EEPROM computer as opposed to discrete components. Modern Lvrbs m/32s have been upgraded to kill low altitude artillery spotting drones with new proximity fuses, imaging infrared guidance seekers, and improved rocket motors for faster/longer-ranged target engagement and can engage targets out to nearly 5 miles. It is likely that the Lvrbs m/32 will be replaced by the Lvrbs m/56, a 4" diameter rocket that has been procured in limited quantities for the Army since 1997, but has yet to fully displace the m/32 (primarily used by airfield defense units of the Royal Army Air Defense Command), or by the Lvrbs m/67, a 5" diameter rocket based on the RBS 148 Pansarknackare (yng. "Tank Breaker"/"Armour Cracker") and shares the same CLU design.

Home Guard m/32 missile teams are organized into regimental air defense platoons comprising a 4-man platoon headquarters, mounted in a pair of extended cab ¾-ton 4x4 trucks, typically a Gallan Motors Kyu-7 or an Alarian Motors 720 pickup truck, painted in Army green, and equipped with a communications shelter. Each platoon has four section headquarters, each with five teams, and each section headquarters has a single extended cab ¾-ton 4x4 truck, transport trailer, four men, TAR radar, VRC radio, a motorbike and wire spools for establishing communication with the platoon HQ or section teams by field telephone. Each missile team is 2-men, mounted on the RM248 scooter, and accompanies the section's truck into action, typically establishing themselves 3 to 5 miles out from the section HQ, itself 5 to 10 miles out from the platoon HQ. This gives the m/32 platoon sufficient frontage (~30-40 miles) to cover the rear area of a Home Guard regiment in combat in an ideal terrain, although in practice this is generally more constricted by radio LOS limits. Total manpower of the platoon is 54 men.

The Home Guard IR-85 Regiment organization was first adopted in 1982 and saw first fielding in 1991, as part of the "Flower" (B-series) TO&E, where the IR-85 Regiment is referred to as "Bellflower".

tl;dr I enjoy the feeling which occurs in the pleasure center of the cortices of my orbitofrontal region of my brain lobes when a scheme finds itself executed in a satisfactorily excellent manner.

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The Skoric Daugrech's SLaK Mk.80.912. It came into service in late 1980, and was produced in significant numbers during the cold war period. A few SLaK's were deployed in the Muwaic Invasion to safeguard the passage of Skoric nationals, with a dozen being donated to the Muwaic Armed Forces.

The most notable feature was the two Melhiet 25mm Cannons (Oerliken 25mm equivalent) and two missile launchers. The Tau-1 and Tau-2 anti-air missiles were rather potent, and the SLaK was originally designed to be able to field them, at a time when the Skoric army was lacking any way to utilize these to their full potential these missiles...

Also, this is my first challenge entry(I initially wanted to join one of these challenges last year but I didn't think a convenient one hadn't come to pass until now lol)

The ASC-77 FENDER made by RXcrop. to be placed in the world's arms market as Simple , Cheap , Effective and Reliable SPAA . Capable to shooting down helicopter, lowflying aircraft and other low altitude flyers.

Armament wise it carries Twin rapid firing 40mm bofors and 4x152mm SAM holder on the side of turret from which it can fire (Adats) or (9M311) type missiles .
the missle targeting is conrtolled by a large sweep radar. It accommodats a crew of 4 and all havetheir own hatches .
It has armor protection againt 25mm autocanons and with its 800hp ingine it can zoom around the battlefield if needed

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Type-23 MAG-8A1 SPAA




The Type-23 was developed to replace the older 1941 Type-19 SPAA. The Type-23 Has 2 quick firing Tamika Armoury 57mm fed by a 1st generation assisted loader feeding a 10 round clip into the breach, it also has a .50 Cal HMG on the commanders skeleton cupola. The 57mm guns have the ability to fire airburst, APCS, and HETS. The tank has a crew of 4: Driver, Gunner, Loader, and Commander. The Type enter ed service in 1957 and retired in 1973 after the introduction of the Type 25 SPAA.

The Type-23 has the ability to take out most helicopters and low flying jets.

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- General Walter Natyncyk, CAF

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ZB-1995 High Mobility Self Propelled Anti Aircraft Testbed


Coming from the PRK's experimental infantry vehicle school the HMSPAAT was first drafted in 1995 then one testbed was constructed. The vehicle is equipped with a pair of 25mm autocannons, a Targeting radar for striking flying vehicles, and a strong powerplant on a lightweight body to allow the vehicle to keep up with fast-moving motor rifle infantry. The HMSPAAT was accepted into service in 1996 as the Type 9 SPAA.

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Glory to Arstotzka.

It is great to see an entry with three views. Unfortunately, I must ask you to make some changes. Under the revised Challenge Rule 2, crew figures must be shown at their stations if they are included. For example, you could have a commander standing in their hatch but not off to the side as is the case in your drawing. You have also included both a national flag and a manufacturer's logo when only one is permitted. Apologies if I did not make this clearing in the wording of the rule.

You may not be aware, but Challenge Rule 2 has changed since you last participated in a Shipbucket challenge. Its present form is: "The image FD template modified to include the participant’s system and, optionally, crew figures at their stations within the system or one of the following: unit insignia, manufacturer logo, national flag. Other elements are no longer permitted." You can no longer include scenic elements, such as other vehicles, and figures must be shown operating the vehicle. I will allow your creative interpretation of a self-propelled air defence system, but I must ask you to only show the scooter with the two members of the missile team riding it.

In 1970 the BAC PT.428 Rapier SAM entered service with the British Army of the Rhine as a mobile air defence system.
A turret with 12x ready-fire missiles with a surveillance radar, tracking radar and a TV tracker was fitted to a modified Blue Water 6x6 Foden armoured lorry chassis. A bay behind the cab contained 8 reload missiles and a small reloading crane was also fitted. A 7.62mm GPMG was fitted to the cupola, the cabin housing a crew of 4.

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Armament:
1x 35mm autocannon (~600 RPM)
4x 2Q82C missile
-Range: 9.8km
-Ceiling: 6km
-Max speed: Mach 3.6
-Warhead: 6x independent tungsten darts separated and shot forwards a charge
-Guidance: laser beam-riding, automatic tracking done by turret optical systems

Vehicle
Operational range: 1000km
Top Speed: 100km/h
Armor: Up to 15mm rounds along frontal arc. Sides and rear rated for full-power AP rifle rounds.

In the early 4290s, as it increasingly seemed Thalea’s adversaries were deploying larger and larger numbers of advanced tanks, the Army decided to switch doctrines. In order to match the amount of armor of the enemy, Thalea would produce a line of cheap, lightly armored, and very highly mobile vehicles. These would be based on a universal platform for ease of maintenance and parts commonality, with turrets adapted to fit various roles such as APCs, IFVs, gun and missile armed tank destroyers, ambulances, command posts and others. These would not fully replace conventional heavy armor, but instead complement it, allowing for tanks to be focused into the areas of highest expected intensity, with the new cavalry units serving in lower intensity zones as well as supports to MBTs.

The Model 4311 Caltrop, initially known as Experimental Cavalry Aerial Defense 1077 (ExCa Da-1077) was to provide protection for cavalry units against helicopters and low flying aircraft. In order to minimize costs, it was equipped with a derivative of the Mo.84 Falarica’s turret with cut down armament to reduce weight and improve stability. The Mo.11 was given improvements to the optical tracking system, laser designator and that later made their way to upgraded Falarica models. The original 2Q82 missiles were also upgraded, replacing the original HE-F and B-model continuous rod warheads with a set of tungsten darts given a final boost by a small charge.

The result, the Model 4311 Caltrop Cavalry Air Defense Vehicle, was a generally disappointing platform. The asymmetry of the armament resulted in some peculiarities in handling, with very limited opportunity for further upgrades due to the use of an older design. Worse, Thalea’s adversary underwent a rapid regime change that dissolved the treat of an armored horde ever crossing its borders. Instead, the cavalry units found themselves deployed to a variety of low-intensity conflict zones, where the Caltrop proved overqualified to deal with the limited air targets present. In later years, a program would be initiated to completely replace it due to its peculiar design choices born from an impending threat that never materialized and create a cavalry SPAA platform optimized for the role such units found themselves in.