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Schlemm138
Post subject: Montford Point and Lewis B. Puller ClassPosted: March 9th, 2022, 11:06 pm
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I finally got around to revisiting my ESB/ESD Class ships that was one of the first ships I ever tried in the Shipbucket format. I must have made some errors scaling from a PDF to a scaled DWG to a SB-scaled DWG to a PNG because my aft houses were about 15'-20' too tall. I also took advantage of some additional resources to add the piping/ducting on the aft house as well as below the flight deck on the ESBs.

USNS Montford Point with the LCAC ports and other equipment to make it a true MLP installed.
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USNS John Glenn with an empty mission deck.
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USS Lewis B. Puller
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USS Hershel "Woody" Williams
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USS Miguel Keith
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Post subject: Re: Montford Point and Lewis B. Puller ClassPosted: March 10th, 2022, 1:54 pm
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Post subject: Re: Montford Point and Lewis B. Puller ClassPosted: March 11th, 2022, 11:08 am
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nice to see these bizarre monsters here in SB. I appreciate it very well. Nice drawings.


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Post subject: Re: Montford Point and Lewis B. Puller ClassPosted: March 13th, 2022, 9:59 am
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Great series, although I'm not convinced about the hull shading (same with the John Lewis class).


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Post subject: Re: Montford Point and Lewis B. Puller ClassPosted: March 13th, 2022, 10:16 pm
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Bring on more Auxilliary content I say !!!

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Post subject: Re: Montford Point and Lewis B. Puller ClassPosted: March 14th, 2022, 2:42 pm
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eswube wrote: *
Great series, although I'm not convinced about the hull shading (same with the John Lewis class).
Thanks for the feedback. To be honest, I'm not totally convinced, either. Hull shading is something I need to get better at. For reference, this is how I came up with that shading. The outboard profiles show the flat of sides and chines. Suffice to say I didn't clean them up after exporting from AutoCAD. Any inputs on how to do it correctly would be greatly appreciated.

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Post subject: Re: Montford Point and Lewis B. Puller ClassPosted: March 14th, 2022, 3:15 pm
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Hey Schlemm, shading the flat sides makes a lot of sense, and is just an artistic choice where to put the line (I personally put it at 45 degrees of angle and not at "Not vertical"
I think the shading as you did it would work perfectly well if you made sure to apply it to stuff like the skeg and the bulb too, as those also have areas that are straight up or even a bit tumblehome, which would then be shaded lighter then all the rest. You also wouldn't have the additional shading at the forecastle, as that area would already be shaded....

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Post subject: Re: Montford Point and Lewis B. Puller ClassPosted: March 14th, 2022, 6:57 pm
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@Schlemm

Yes, I understand what was Your idea. The method described by Acelanceloet is probably most common on SB nowadays. It uses basically just 2 shades - ">45 degrees" and "<45 degress" -but it's not able to effectively depict such hull shade as here.

But then You have "flat of side shade" and "not flat of side shade" plus a darker tone that's used in the area above propeller and on 1-pixel thick stripe along the keel. And at the same time You seem to overlook, that for example on the bulbous bow You'd have places that are facing up/front (so towards the source of light as understood by SB practice) so should be marked as highlighted.

IMHO with a hull shaped like this, it perhaps makes sense to have slightly darker shade for "not flat of side" areas (or perhaps, maybe rather slightly lighter for "flat of side"), but also to combine with "45 degree practice" (where 45+ deg. areas are marked with much darker shade.
What I mean is a hull shading that would look more like this (mind it's just a VERY crude, simplistic drawing that is just meant to convey the general concept):

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EDIT: to me it would also make sense to have that "flat/not flat" line clearly marked (the way panel lines are marked, for example), but the different shade reserved to areas that are at an angle exceeding certain value ("very much not flat") but less than "45+ degree", though it could be difficult.


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