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orionfield
Post subject: Re: FD Aircraft 17Posted: August 12th, 2020, 10:10 pm
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Because on the Actual VC-25A, the doors are barely visible, and I wanted to replicate that on the drawing. Its the same thing Caddaric79 did the with VC-137.

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Post subject: Re: FD Aircraft 17Posted: August 13th, 2020, 12:42 am
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Do you think that you could also do the Boeing E-4 and/or possibly the Boeing YAL-1 please?


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Post subject: Re: FD Aircraft 17Posted: August 13th, 2020, 1:12 am
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Robert MacReady wrote: *
Do you think that you could also do the Boeing E-4 and/or possibly the Boeing YAL-1 please?
Yes, already working on them

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Post subject: Re: FD Aircraft 17Posted: August 13th, 2020, 1:36 am
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orionfield wrote: *
Robert MacReady wrote: *
Do you think that you could also do the Boeing E-4 and/or possibly the Boeing YAL-1 please?
Yes, already working on them
Cool. Always looking forward to new drawings.


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Post subject: Re: FD Aircraft 17Posted: August 13th, 2020, 10:18 am
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orionfield wrote: *
Because on the Actual VC-25A, the doors are barely visible, and I wanted to replicate that on the drawing. Its the same thing Caddaric79 did the with VC-137.
That was a rhetorical question. And the doors and luggage hatches on Caddaric79's VC-137's while indeed not black, they do very clearly stand out. Yours are outlined in exactly the same shades as all other panel lines.
SB/FD drawing style has been deliberately made in certain (more-or-less clearly) defined convention, rather than literally "as it exactly is" in regards to things like colors and shades, representation of certain shapes etc. Real panel lines and rivets are even less visible, to a point where - at this scale - in some 90+% of cases there's (if we were to apply Your argument about visibility of VC-25A doors) completely no need to include them on the drawings at all - after all, in reality the panel lines are razor-thin, and on FD-scale drawing they are repesented by a furrow 4,526 centimeters thick (not mentioning that those in SB-scale Planebucket are whooping 15,24 centimeters thick) - and yet we draw them. :roll:


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Post subject: Re: FD Aircraft 17Posted: August 13th, 2020, 4:37 pm
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eswube wrote: *
orionfield wrote: *
Because on the Actual VC-25A, the doors are barely visible, and I wanted to replicate that on the drawing. Its the same thing Caddaric79 did the with VC-137.
That was a rhetorical question. And the doors and luggage hatches on Caddaric79's VC-137's while indeed not black, they do very clearly stand out. Yours are outlined in exactly the same shades as all other panel lines.
SB/FD drawing style has been deliberately made in certain (more-or-less clearly) defined convention, rather than literally "as it exactly is" in regards to things like colors and shades, representation of certain shapes etc. Real panel lines and rivets are even less visible, to a point where - at this scale - in some 90+% of cases there's (if we were to apply Your argument about visibility of VC-25A doors) completely no need to include them on the drawings at all - after all, in reality the panel lines are razor-thin, and on FD-scale drawing they are repesented by a furrow 4,526 centimeters thick (not mentioning that those in SB-scale Planebucket are whooping 15,24 centimeters thick) - and yet we draw them. :roll:
That makes a lot of sense. Thanks for clarifying. I went through and made the doors two shades darker than they were, so they should stand out more.

Boeing VC-25A "Air Force One" - Edited
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Also finished a Civil conversion B-17G, based on Jabba's old drawing, I tried to spruce it up a bit. I'm also currently working on making the B-17 Family.

Boeing B-17G Trans World Airline(s)
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After World War II, Jack Frye, President of TWA wanted a plane that they could use to explore new air routes around the world. In 1946, with all of TWA's Boeing 307's being used in the war by the Army Air Force, and having accrued a lot of flight hours, he opted to purchase a low hour B-17G that had been flown from the factory to storage. After being refitted at the Boeing Plant in Seattle, Frye set out to on a world tour to forge new relationships and find new routes for TWA to fly.

For reasons not found through my research, the Aircraft was lettered "Trans World Airline" omitting the S from the name.

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Post subject: Re: FD Aircraft 17Posted: August 13th, 2020, 7:21 pm
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Cool!
I really like Both Air Force One (During Reagan and Trump), and the TWA B-17!

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Post subject: Re: FD Aircraft 17Posted: August 14th, 2020, 5:29 am
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Post subject: Re: FD Aircraft 17Posted: August 14th, 2020, 3:15 pm
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Nice work.

@Orionfield
Bit better now. (Would be even better if the outline was even darker, though)


During the upload I had better things to do than to appreciate uploaded works, so until now I didn't realized that Jabba's B-17 aged so ungracefully. :(
(Although the fact that we had just a single drawing of one of the most important combat aircraft ever was quite glaring)
Something needs to be done about it... but it will take time (some weeks, at least - I have other things to do as well)... :roll:

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Post subject: Re: FD Aircraft 17Posted: August 14th, 2020, 4:50 pm
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United 747s
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N4703U (1970-1986) Fate: Sold to Pan Am
N4732U (1973-1998) Fate: Scrapped
N4717U (1970-1998) Fate: Scrapped
N156UA (1987-1998) Fate: Scrapped
N151UA (1987-2000) Fate: Sold to Northwest
N150UA (1986-1992) Fate: Sold to Oman Government
N145UA (1986-1997) Fate: Became SOFIA Infra-Red Observatory
N171UA (1989-2015) Fate: Scrapped
N173UA (1989-2011) Fate: Scrapped
N119UA (1999-2017) Fate: Sold to Atlas Air
N118UA (1999-2017) Fate: Scrapped

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