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Post subject: Re: brig of war 'Irene' ex 'HMS Grashopper'Posted: April 3rd, 2011, 7:45 pm
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thanks DP :D

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Post subject: Re: brig of war 'Irene' ex 'HMS Grashopper'Posted: May 5th, 2011, 8:03 pm
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finally an update on this ship! I have done the underwaterhull. next part is the rigging, after that only some detailing / shading fixes to be done!
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Post subject: Re: brig of war 'Irene' ex 'HMS Grashopper'Posted: May 5th, 2011, 8:12 pm
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Looks good. The rudder looks weird though.

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Post subject: Re: brig of war 'Irene' ex 'HMS Grashopper'Posted: May 5th, 2011, 8:15 pm
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the top part needs recouloring... but that is the only part that should be changed (I followed the original plans where possible)

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Post subject: Re: brig of war 'Irene' ex 'HMS Grashopper'Posted: May 5th, 2011, 8:23 pm
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The rudder is perfectly ok, except as ace mentioned to do away with the copper sheathing on its tiller part. You'd be amazed to realize what, proportionally small rudders ships of this age really had! A large part of the actual maneuvering of the ship was executed by the running rigging and the sails!

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Post subject: Re: brig of war 'Irene' ex 'HMS Grashopper'Posted: May 5th, 2011, 9:02 pm
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bezobrazov wrote:
The rudder is perfectly ok, except as ace mentioned to do away with the copper sheathing on its tiller part. You'd be amazed to realize what, proportionally small rudders ships of this age really had! A large part of the actual maneuvering of the ship was executed by the running rigging and the sails!
I know that* and I wasn't referring to its size. I should have explained myself better.
Anyway, the reason why it looks weird to me is because Ace hasn't shown the rudder stock which on ships like this is a very prominent feature.

*I have sailed traditional Fore-n-Aft and Square rigged ships both as a hobby and professionally for the last 13 years.

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Post subject: Re: brig of war 'Irene' ex 'HMS Grashopper'Posted: May 6th, 2011, 8:45 am
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the rudder stock? a bit of an translation error here... I guess that is the horizontal 'stick' at the top of the rudder, which is used to move the rudder? I can clear that easily: that one is inside the hull. the rudder goes through the stern and inside it is linked to the steering wheel.

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Post subject: Re: brig of war 'Irene' ex 'HMS Grashopper'Posted: May 6th, 2011, 10:09 am
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Nope, that's the tiller.
That's the rudder stock.
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Post subject: Re: brig of war 'Irene' ex 'HMS Grashopper'Posted: May 6th, 2011, 10:27 am
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aaah, that way. hmm, you might be right on that, I will take a look at that.

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Post subject: Re: brig of war 'Irene' ex 'HMS Grashopper'Posted: May 6th, 2011, 3:36 pm
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update.... the bowsprit is the level of detail the rigging will get ;) this gonna be a lot of work...... but well worth it

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