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FOXGAME
Post subject: HMS VictoriaPosted: July 5th, 2020, 1:02 pm
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this is my first cruiser design HMS Victoria she is a AA / carrier escort cruiser (1950) tips are welkom to improve the desing.

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Post subject: Re: HMS VictoriaPosted: July 5th, 2020, 1:23 pm
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FOXGAME wrote: *
this is my first cruiser design HMS Victoria see is a AA / carrier escort cruiser (1950) tips are welkom to improve the desing.

[https://discordapp.com/channels/2880167 ... 4855972944 [img]]
picture doesn't work

1. picture link should be posted between IMG tag
2. picture should be linked from a image host. (I don't know if it work trough discord, I have to log in to discord to be able to see the picture)



on side not, new comers and beginners should post there drawings in beginner section of the forum!


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Post subject: Re: HMS VictoriaPosted: July 5th, 2020, 1:38 pm
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i have re tag the link and untill now i havend yet gotten the image host to work


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Post subject: Re: HMS VictoriaPosted: July 5th, 2020, 1:51 pm
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FOXGAME wrote: *
i have re tag the link and untill now i havend yet gotten the image host to work
[ img ] image link here [ /img ]


and use something different than discord as your image host, it dosn's work like that, it for just showing a picture and discussion in current time. Discord just show directly from your computer. Instead use something like https://imgur.com/ (Imgure is the easy one, of course you can also use the forums own wiki page as a host, but for just showing of a drawing now and then, imgure is easier and faster)


to use Imgure:

1. log in
2. click on you'r name up in the right corner
3. click on "Posts"
4. pull the image directly from you'r computer into Imgure web-page, by holding down left mouse button and drag the file over to the web page and drop it.
5. Give it a few seconds.
6. hold your mouse over the picture, two icons will pop up in the upper right corner
7. click on the icon with three dots, it will expand
8. click "Get share links"
9. Select copy link on: BBcode (Forums)
10. Right click and past it in your post on the forum and post.


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Post subject: Re: HMS VictoriaPosted: July 5th, 2020, 2:11 pm
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i have got the imgur to work


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Post subject: Re: HMS VictoriaPosted: July 5th, 2020, 4:39 pm
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That ship will be to top heavy.

Those main guns is extremely heavy for it's caliber.


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Post subject: Re: HMS VictoriaPosted: July 5th, 2020, 5:12 pm
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Outside technical problems of design, it is well made drawing.

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Post subject: Re: HMS VictoriaPosted: July 5th, 2020, 7:03 pm
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I like the beefy superstructure, but I agree with heuhen's words. And by a quick head count you're shipping thirty two 3"/70 guns, which is... and obscene amount. Particularly the raised mounts looks like they'd interfere with each others' arcs of fire, and I really don't see the need for them to be that elevated. As long as they clear the lower mounts, they should be fine. The foremost turret of the aft groups look very awkward, squeezed in between to pieces of superstructure like that.

For the most part I'm not particularly knowledgeable about post-war cruisers, but the catapult and crane just screams pre-war cruiser. Throughout the second world war plane and hangar arrangement often proved a fire hazard, and by this time radar was good enough that you didn't really need the planes for scouting. Most cruisers dropped the scouting planes after the war.

I'd drop the catapult and replace them with boats, drop the B, C, Y, and Z turrets one level - like you'd see of the Worcester class cruisers of the USN - and settle for a maximum of four 3"70 turrets per side. Can't comment on the radar and director suit.

From a drawing standpoint, it does indeed look good.

Cheers.


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Post subject: Re: HMS VictoriaPosted: July 5th, 2020, 7:52 pm
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The artwork is very good, but this is a flawed design.
Either the hull needs to be deeper below the waterline
or you need to eliminate some of the guns and super
structure.
Recommendations:
1. No catapult. No seaplanes. No crane. If you must,
then a smaller catapult and a smaller float plane. No
Walruses.
2. The Z turret (aft) is too close to the stern, and
the hull is probably too narrow there for the magazine
below the guns. Either a longer hull, or one less turret
aft.
3. Way too many secondary guns turrets. I would have
only four on each side of the ship - and put them all
on the main deck - get rid of those upper gun mounts.
4. Replace the tripod Main (aft) mast with a pole mast.
5. Increase the draft (hull below the waterline) by two
or three feet - or reduce the forward superstructure
by one deck.


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Post subject: Re: HMS VictoriaPosted: July 5th, 2020, 8:06 pm
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oke ill try to fixe it
and which floteplane shod i use then?


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