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Post subject: Re: Design forum for "AU" Northern KingdomPosted: April 27th, 2011, 6:30 pm
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What about this one!
Sorry, but this is just hideous; and that isn't even a critique of its feasability :cry:

A little appreciated aspect of ship design is that naval architects actually work hard to make their ships look decent ;)


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Post subject: Re: Design forum for "AU" Northern KingdomPosted: April 27th, 2011, 6:39 pm
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What about this one!
Sorry, but this is just hideous; and that isn't even a critique of its feasability :cry:

A little appreciated aspect of ship design is that naval architects actually work hard to make their ships look decent ;)
yes I know, we have to try and fail, special with something you never have designed ​​before.


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Post subject: Re: Design forum for "AU" Northern KingdomPosted: April 27th, 2011, 7:12 pm
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- new funnel.
- wooooooden bridge.
- one more anchor.
- railings.
- some minor details.

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I can all too little about ship from that era. so I move me up to the 60's + years. from now. If you do not come with something I should try out.


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Post subject: Re: Design forum for "AU" Northern KingdomPosted: April 27th, 2011, 7:14 pm
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that bridge looks vulnerable... I liked the previous one better. the hull looks.... well.... not appropriate. it looks to high above the waterline, while the prop looks a bit on the small side for this ship....
also, in what year is this ship 'build' ?

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Post subject: Re: Design forum for "AU" Northern KingdomPosted: April 27th, 2011, 7:36 pm
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acelanceloet wrote:
that bridge looks vulnerable... I liked the previous one better. the hull looks.... well.... not appropriate. it looks to high above the waterline, while the prop looks a bit on the small side for this ship....
also, in what year is this ship 'build' ?
1.
I can change to the other method. but I will have Wood on steel skin.

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da samme tenkte jeg også. men så tegnet jeg båten med så litten overbygg som mulig fordi meste parten av mannskapet og annet utstyr kan jo være nede i skroget. Og dermed for man et veldig lav tyngde punkt og bedre sjøegenskap, samt litt tørrere fordekk. Det var i allefall ideen, men fungere det, hvem vet!

-It is quite possible for me to lower the torpedo tubes one deck lower, if I make it so it should also be room for a set of torpedo tubes in front of the lifeboat.

3. Around 2. WW


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Post subject: Re: Design forum for "AU" Northern KingdomPosted: April 27th, 2011, 7:43 pm
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for 2: ??????? english please
for 3: will need more AA, IMO....
for 1: an armoured bridge will be better. if I am correct, most ships of this time era had an open bridge with an steering cabin underneath it (at least the british cruisers had that)

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Post subject: Re: Design forum for "AU" Northern KingdomPosted: April 27th, 2011, 7:46 pm
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acelanceloet wrote:
for 2: ??????? english please
obs apologize for that! you can now copy and paste, when you do something completely different ... :lol:


when I thought the same too. but then I drew the boat looked a little superstructure as possible because most of the crew and other equipment could be down in the hull. And so for one a very low point of gravity and more seaworthy, and a little drier foredeck. It was at least the idea, but work it, who knows!


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Post subject: Re: Design forum for "AU" Northern KingdomPosted: April 28th, 2011, 12:44 am
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and now 60's and 70's

Trondheim class Type 1 & 2
corvette, patrol and tug

Trondheim class Type 3
(escort) corvette
can be used as command vessel.

Length: 77,81m
Beam: aprox: 10/11 m
draft: 5.77m (Type 3: aprox 6m)
Engine: Type 1 & 2: 2*5000 shp geard for maximum pulling power, Type 3: 2*5000 shp geard for maximum speed in rough Sea!
Speed: Type 1 & 2: 16 knots, Type 3: 23++ knots

Armarment:
Type 1 & 2
as build
1*76mm DP gun
2*12.7 mm

as modified:
1*76mm MK5 DP/AA gun
or
1*56mm DP/AA gun

Type 3 Suggestion
1*76mm DP/AA gun
2/4*12,7mm
Sea Sparrow
Torpedo tubes

Aircraft only type 3:
Westland lynx (equipment depending on mission

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Post subject: Re: Design forum for "AU" Northern KingdomPosted: April 29th, 2011, 4:24 pm
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Has taken me a trip to the countryside in the wonderful weather we have here. but I've have borrowed a computer where I am, but I think the colors are a bit weird on the screen, so it is just to speak out when the colors are totally off the wall!

so to have something to do occasionally, so I've started to draw a new kind of Frigate, Destroyer to be the successor to one of my former Frigate (FXX 268 project)

Batch 1: approx. 135m long, ASW frigate
Batch 2: approx. 140m long, air-defense with some ASW capabilities.
Batch 3: approx. 155m long, destroyer, (ASW / air defense / multi-role or command vessel)

Speed: from 26 knots and up to 33 knots.

If you have suggestions for radar equipment and weapons for those different vessels, then you just have to speak out. ;)

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Post subject: Re: Design forum for "AU" Northern KingdomPosted: May 1st, 2011, 6:43 pm
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Stavanger class
Batch 1 ASW Frigate
Batch 2 multi role frigate
Batch 3 Ship to ship, later command destroyer

Length:
Batch 1: 135 m
Batch 2: 143,3 m
Batch 3: 157 m

Displacement:
Batch 1: 5300 tons
Batch 2: 5900 tons
Batch 3: 7200 tons

Beam: 15,7m

Draft:
Batch 1: 7,2 m
Batch 2: 7,3 m
Batch 3: 7,5 m

Propulsion:
Batch 1: 56000 shp
Batch 2: 63000 shp
Batch 3: 75000 shp

Speed: max: 30 knots, cruise: 17,4 knots

Armament:

Batch 1:
1*twin 76mm cannon
1*singel 40mm AA-gun
2 × 20 mm AA guns
2 × 12.7 mm AA guns
8 × Penguin SSMs
1 × 8-cell Raytheon RIM-7M Sea Sparrow Mk 29 SAM system
12 × Kongsberg Terne ASW rocket-thrown depth charges
2 × triple 324 mm torpedo tubes

Batch 2:
1*singel 127mm cannon
4 × 12.7 mm AA guns
8*Harpoon cruise missile
Standard missil, mk41 launchers
1 × 8-cell Raytheon RIM-7M Sea Sparrow Mk 29 SAM system
2*Phalanx Block 2

Batch 3:
1*singel 150mm cannon
2 × 12.7 mm AA guns
2*Phalanx Block 2
Standard missil, mk22 launchers
Tomahawk cruise missils
ASROC (If necessary)
6 × Penguin SSMs
8+4*Harpoon cruise missile

Aircraft carried:
Batch 1:
2*Westland lynx (Anti ubåt torpedo, synke miner, (anti-ships missiles) eller avansertsonar)
Batch 2:
2*Westland lynx (Anti ubåt torpedo, synke miner, anti-ships missiles eller avansertsonar)
Batch 3:
3/4*Westland lynx (Anti ubåt torpedo, synke miner, anti-ships missiles eller avansertsonar)
or:
2*SH-3 Sea King
or:
1*Boeing Vertol CH-46 Sea Knight

What kind of radar / sensor setup can I choose from?

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