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Post subject: Re: Design forum for "AU" Northern KingdomPosted: April 7th, 2011, 6:41 pm
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Post subject: Re: Design forum for "AU" Northern KingdomPosted: April 7th, 2011, 8:23 pm
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The Talos is loaded horizontally, not vertically.

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Post subject: Re: Design forum for "AU" Northern KingdomPosted: April 7th, 2011, 8:56 pm
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Thiel wrote:
The Talos is loaded horizontally, not vertically.
He doesn't have any TALOS launchers on there, but even then he's got about half of the number of guidance channels that he needs.

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Post subject: Re: Design forum for "AU" Northern KingdomPosted: April 7th, 2011, 9:35 pm
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TimothyC wrote:
Thiel wrote:
The Talos is loaded horizontally, not vertically.
He doesn't have any TALOS launchers on there, but even then he's got about half of the number of guidance channels that he needs.
Sorry, meant Terrier. I can never remember which of the three T's are were which.
Anyway, according to the sheet, they are loaded in similar ways.

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Post subject: Re: Design forum for "AU" Northern KingdomPosted: April 7th, 2011, 9:49 pm
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Thiel wrote:
TimothyC wrote:
Thiel wrote:
The Talos is loaded horizontally, not vertically.
He doesn't have any TALOS launchers on there, but even then he's got about half of the number of guidance channels that he needs.
Sorry, meant Terrier. I can never remember which of the three T's are were which.
Anyway, according to the sheet, they are loaded in similar ways.
There was a GMLS that did load Terrier from underneath (the Mk-4), however the ships it was mounted on (Boston and Canberra), had other issues with the missile set up, and the was so deep that it required gutting the entire hull below the launcher, hence the switch to horizontal loading for all future Terrier and Talos refits).

Tartar and Standard-MR were short enough that vertical storage was viable (hence Mk-11, Mk-13, Mk-22, and Mk-26).

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Post subject: Re: Design forum for "AU" Northern KingdomPosted: April 15th, 2011, 10:16 pm
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Lillehammer class
Coastal battleship

Length: 98,78 m
Speed: 18.1 knoots

armarment:
2*single 245mm
8*single 125mm
4*single 76mm

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OK class
Fast Battleship

Length: 182,52m
Speed: 28 knoots

Armarment
1*Trippel 315 mm (Black Beauty!) guns
1*Twin 315 mm (Red Devil!) guns
2*Twin 280 mm guns
6*twin 150 mm guns
3*76mm (revolver) guns

OK class
Standard Battleship

Length: 182,52m
Speed: 25 knoots

Armarment
2*Trippel 315 mm ("Black Beauty" and "The lord of darkness"!) guns
2*Twin 315 mm ("Red Devi" and "Lady in red"!) guns
6*twin 150 mm guns
3*76mm (revolver) guns
Torpedo tube

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Post subject: Re: Design forum for "AU" Northern KingdomPosted: April 16th, 2011, 3:44 pm
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OK class
Eirik Blodøks (Bloodaxe) Haraldson
Battleship

Length: 182,52m
beam: 2735 meter
depth: 8,97m
Displacement: from 25900 tonns to 32000 tonns
Propulsion: 4 shafts, steam turbines. 80000 hp
Speed: 28 knots
Range: 5900 nmi at 11 knots

Armarment
2*Trippel 340 mm guns
2*Twin 340 mm guns
6*twin 150 mm guns

Alright Then!

Battleship Eirik Blodøks (Bloodaxe) Haraldson of OK-class was built by an unknown shipyard for the northern 9 fleet. The fleet needed a new ship when most of the ships coming in from 1880-1890, so in 1914, it was ordered a new ship in the OK class, she would become the largest and most powerful ship built for the 9th fleet. she would replace the two older battleships in the fleet.

The first fleet admiral in command on board got her painted black and thus got 9th fleet, the nickname "The black fleet".

with her there are:
1 OK class battleship
3 small battleship
2 Dreadnought
10 destroyers
5 aux shipper

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Post subject: Re: Design forum for "AU" Northern KingdomPosted: April 24th, 2011, 7:38 pm
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JK-class (refitt)
Super dreadnought

Length: 201,2m
Beam: 34,5m
Draft: 11,25m maximum
Displacement: more than 37000 tonns
Propulsion: 4 Turbines providing 118 000 shp 1937 (5 Turbines providing 152 000 shp as of 1895)
speed: 1937: 26,2 knots. 1985: On trial 29 knots.
Endurance: 1937: 15500 nmi, 1901: 16700 nmi.
Armament:
2*quad 340mm guns
1*twin 340mm gun (later as DP gun)
5*twin 150 mm guns (later as DP gun)
1*trippel 150mm gun (later as DP gun)
8*76mm guns (later upgradet to DP gun)

The JK-class (refitt) is larger then OK class but she is older. When the JK-class battleships were launched it was the navy's fastest and most powerful ships in the fleet. originally she had 5 * twin 245mm cannons and a mix of 76mm, 105mm and 150mm. by 1914 it was decided that she should be placed in reserve fleet, since it have ordered a new battleships of the OK class. but in 1935 there was a growing issues in the world, it was almost as if the world was quiet before the storm, so they ordred that JK-class battleships would be rebuilt with a new superstructure, new weapons and upgrading the old engines.

The Design

When the design of the ship started, requirements:
- She had to be able to hang in a fight much longer than any other battleship.
- She had to be able to defend itself and have the skills to participate in offensive attacks as well as defend the rest of the fleet .
- She must be fast enough to escape hostile fire and get out of certain situations.

so the designer found that the easiest way to get to a battleship like that. was to make her just large enough.

- to be able to wear the Armor she needed, they made ​​her wider, but to avoid getting the so-called bathtub, they made her a little longer, but then came the question: how to make her fast enough? easy one makes her longer and put in 5 large engines. thereby they got a very large battleship some was: fast, able to withstand hostile fire better than others and could respond the enemy fire with interest!

when she was upgraded in 1936-37 the requirements was:

- new and more effective superstructure.
- she had to be able to defend herself, while she gives supporting fire to the main force, she had to also act as a blockade ship.
- she had to be fast enough to keep up with the main force, but she must also be fast enough to stay away from hostile fire.

When she was finished rebuilt in 1937 with the brand new untested 340mm twin and quad cannons. that after some testing found out was more effective than other guns in the fleet, those cannon could switch between the targets on the starboard and port and open fire, 7 to 10 seconds faster than the guns that were still in use on board the OK-class battleship. With the new guns and the heavy hull she got fast the nick name "Hevy pounder"

She quickly became a "joker" for the entire fleet.

- Invasion. Use a JK-class battleship.
- Battleship against battleships. Use a JK-class battleship.
- defense. .....
- Problems. ......

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Post subject: Re: Design forum for "AU" Northern KingdomPosted: April 25th, 2011, 10:29 pm
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The 5 class
Cruiser

Cruiser C10 and C4: Ship to ship and ship to land.
Cruiser from C11 to C23 as a type of multi mission ship.

Length: 157,5m
beam: 16m
Draft: 6,53m
speed: 34 knots

Armament:
C10 and C4
5*trippel 150mm guns
2*twin 150mm guns
Torpedo tubes

From C11 to C23
7*twin 150mm guns
Torpedo tubes
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Post subject: Re: Design forum for "AU" Northern KingdomPosted: April 25th, 2011, 10:40 pm
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The hull on your cruiser seems way too small for all those gun mountings, even if they are singles. Funnels look too big, the aft-most guns are in way of the propeller shafts, the fore most gun is too close to the bows...

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