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ALVAMA
Post subject: Dutch battlecruiser projectsPosted: March 24th, 2011, 2:46 pm
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Post subject: Re: Dutch battlecruiser projectsPosted: March 24th, 2011, 8:58 pm
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Quite attractive, although the rudder seems badly undersized.

And my god, those rangefinders are HUGE!


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Post subject: Re: Dutch battlecruiser projectsPosted: March 25th, 2011, 6:28 am
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ALVAMA
Post subject: Re: Dutch battlecruiser projectsPosted: March 25th, 2011, 7:56 am
OMG, every time I post a Dutch design the same comment :cry:

It's draw like it sould. Dutch rangefinders are large of that time, and the underwaterhull is about 95% to the that from the Scharnhorst!


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Post subject: Re: Dutch battlecruiser projectsPosted: March 25th, 2011, 8:15 am
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No Alvama, you don't.
The fact that the rudder seems undersized has nothing to do with you, but with the design.
Same with the rangefinders.
Nobody is knocking you.

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Post subject: Re: Dutch battlecruiser projectsPosted: March 26th, 2011, 8:29 pm
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ALVAMA wrote:
OMG, every time I post a Dutch design the same comment :cry:

It's draw like it sould. Dutch rangefinders are large of that time, and the underwaterhull is about 95% to the that from the Scharnhorst!
Thiel has it right. I'm sorry if I wasn't clear - I'm commenting on the design itself, not on how you've drawn it.


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Post subject: Re: Dutch battlecruiser projectsPosted: April 3rd, 2011, 6:44 pm
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I've always found it odd that the Dutch tried to order battlecruisers to counter the Japanese. IMHO, the Dutch should've gone with more "De Ruyter" style ships, but with a better main battery (and perhaps more U-Boats :D).

Nevertheless, it's a great drawing of a great ship that never was.

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Post subject: Re: Dutch battlecruiser projectsPosted: April 3rd, 2011, 6:56 pm
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well, by that time the thread was not really the japanese. these battlecruisers were build to give the dutch an 'real' fleet, instead of only cruisers and destroyers.

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Post subject: Re: Dutch battlecruiser projectsPosted: April 3rd, 2011, 9:43 pm
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acelanceloet wrote:
well, by that time the thread was not really the japanese. these battlecruisers were build to give the dutch an 'real' fleet, instead of only cruisers and destroyers.
Really? :| I could've sworn that the "1047's" were meant to counter the IJN's cruisers. Could be wrong, though...

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Post subject: Re: Dutch battlecruiser projectsPosted: April 4th, 2011, 2:13 pm
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well, come to think of it, this series of ships were build together with the Germans..... these designs were from before the WW2 influences. and think of it: if even the british and the americans thought of the japanese lightly in those days, how could possibly the dutch build something to counter them? :P

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