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Post subject: Re: Kaiserliche Marine. HOCHSEEFLOTTEPosted: March 30th, 2011, 8:50 am
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Post subject: Re: Kaiserliche Marine. HOCHSEEFLOTTEPosted: March 30th, 2011, 8:52 am
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Post subject: Re: Kaiserliche Marine. HOCHSEEFLOTTEPosted: March 30th, 2011, 8:53 am
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Post subject: Re: Kaiserliche Marine. HOCHSEEFLOTTEPosted: March 30th, 2011, 10:15 am
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Those 3d renders you've posted have eaten up what's left.
3D - not guilty. Standard size = 256k.
Oh well. I will use a photo hosting. Only one I comfortable.
The 3D renders are guilty. I've got some rather large file collections, and the only way I get into the file size that the 3D renders take up is if I have a 4-5 megapixel sheet.

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Post subject: Re: Kaiserliche Marine. HOCHSEEFLOTTEPosted: March 30th, 2011, 11:16 am
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Just a few remarks: the color scheme is still too dark for that time period. Secondly: Lützow never shipped the enlarged f/c tower on a tripod as you make us believe by bunching together the three sub-sisters Derfflinger, Lützow and Hindenburg. Also between the first ship and last, the actual appearance of the tripod installation differed. And, of course, you have not shown the Derfflinger or Lützow in their original appearance w/o a tripod, but with small f/c towers and polemasts! Thirdly: the Germans never spelled SMS von der Tann with a capital 'V'. That it was so is a wide-spread misconception, but since the name is from a 19th c. cavalry general, that last (family-) name has in a literal sense been carried over; hence the lower case 'v'.

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Post subject: Re: Kaiserliche Marine. HOCHSEEFLOTTEPosted: March 30th, 2011, 12:14 pm
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Thirdly: the Germans never spelled SMS von der Tann with a capital 'V'. That it was so is a wide-spread misconception, but since the name is from a 19th c. cavalry general, that last (family-) name has in a literal sense been carried over; hence the lower case 'v'.
One can argue, but I don't want to do it. Different sources have different writing.
I'll show you a document that is difficult to argue:)))

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Post subject: Re: Kaiserliche Marine. HOCHSEEFLOTTEPosted: March 30th, 2011, 12:17 pm
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All the letters are capitals. That proves exactly nothing.

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Post subject: Re: Kaiserliche Marine. HOCHSEEFLOTTEPosted: March 30th, 2011, 12:19 pm
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bezobrazov wrote:
Just a few remarks: the color scheme is still too dark for that time period.
Agreed. But I like it. And many, too. My main forum - forum alternative history.

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Post subject: Re: Kaiserliche Marine. HOCHSEEFLOTTEPosted: March 30th, 2011, 12:37 pm
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Von der Tann or von der Tann?????
For me, it's not a problem.
It is interesting to others: why other German Battlecruisers - named without "VON"?

SMS Blücher - Gebhard Leberecht von Blücher.
SMS Von der Tann - Ludwig von der Tann.
SMS Moltke - Helmuth von Moltke
SMS Goeben - August Karl von Goeben
SMS Seydlitz - Friedrich Wilhelm von Seydlitz
SMS Derfflinger - Georg von Derfflinger
SMS Lützow - Ludwig Adolf Wilhelm von Lützow
SMS Hindenburg - Paul von Hindenburg
SMS Mackensen - August von Mackensen

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Post subject: Re: Kaiserliche Marine. HOCHSEEFLOTTEPosted: March 30th, 2011, 12:53 pm
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bezobrazov wrote:
....the three sub-sisters Derfflinger, Lützow and Hindenburg.....
You are right about that - three !!! ALMOST!!! sister-ship.

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