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Post subject: Re: Soviet project 956 Sovremenniy destroyer (new version)Posted: May 28th, 2016, 12:28 pm
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Looks like a very fine drawing in completed form.
The mainmast is perhaps a little clumsy still but at this scale such small lattice masts are a pain in the ass to draw!

Compared to Golly's last version, this is an improvement, especially in the detailing.

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Post subject: Re: Soviet project 956 Sovremenniy destroyer (new version)Posted: May 28th, 2016, 9:06 pm
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erik_t wrote:
IMHO, under-sized missiles on the rails might be more clear about what we're looking at. I know that broaches the usually contentious issue of how to represent over-scale missiles...
Fair point. I hadn't considered on-rail missiles for this ship, but maybe I'm stuck too close to the design and I haven't realized that others may not know its equipment by heart.
On the other hand, I hadn't tackled the Buk (or most other SAMs) yet and it turns out that the standard version is a bit on the fat side, so I have taken the liberty of re-scaling the unattached missile to the same scale as the AShMs I have already posted (namely 8.5px/m). That way, all missiles on the drawing are to the same scale. The on-rail missiles are back to ship scale, and may appear too thin in turn, but this is meant to avoid a fat, blunt-nosed 4px-wide missile. All in all I think it fits, but it may be less controversial to just remove the on-rail missiles.
Hood wrote:
The mainmast is perhaps a little clumsy still but at this scale such small lattice masts are a pain in the ass to draw!
That has been my problem from the beginning with this ship. The lattice looked too thin to show in full 3px thickness, but once I started thickening the platforms I found that the version with thick struts was more harmonious.
The later ships in the series have a less organic-looking mast with thicker beams and a simpler structure from the get-go, so I don't preclude going back to thinner lines for this version to highlight the difference.

That being said, here is the Sovremenniy updated according to the latest remarks as well as some touch-up.
She is followed by two sister-ships of the early series, with a slightly different fit each time:
- Osmotritelniy (yard n° 864) the 4th ship in the series, was the first ship to carry the new hybrid MR-710M1 Fregat-M1 with one single slab of electronically steered radar for 3D air search. She entered service in the Pacific Fleet in 1984.
- Boevoy (yard n° 866), 6th ship built, carried first the final radar fit with the MR-750 Fregat-M2 with dual scanned-array plates.
Other minor changes in the layout are apparent from ship to ship.

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That's all for now, from now on I will start on the later part of the Pr.956 series, as it evolves into its final Pr.956A configuration step by step, as well as the export and unbuilt variants.
Enjoy and stay tuned!

Edit: Sovremenniy corrected, missile bottom lines from missiles repaired as per Hood's remark below.


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Post subject: Re: Soviet project 956 Sovremenniy destroyer (new version)Posted: May 28th, 2016, 9:26 pm
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Absolutely beautiful. I wonder about some shading on the sonar dome...?


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Post subject: Re: Soviet project 956 Sovremenniy destroyer (new version)Posted: May 29th, 2016, 9:16 am
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Very nice work.
One minor nitpick, the lower flight surfaces of the Moskit on the Sovremenniy 1989 drawing have been cut, probably when you were moving stuff around.

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Post subject: Re: Soviet project 956 Sovremenniy destroyer (new version)Posted: May 29th, 2016, 9:31 am
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erik_t wrote:
Absolutely beautiful. I wonder about some shading on the sonar dome...?
Thanks! What about the sonar dome? The bottom shading follows the curve of the dome, and there is no bulge to highlight by shading the top of the dome. How would you see a better shaded version?
Hood wrote:
Very nice work.
One minor nitpick, the lower flight surfaces of the Moskit on the Sovremenniy 1989 drawing have been cut, probably when you were moving stuff around.
Thanks for both the positive feedback and the nitpick. This was certainly erased when pasting updated parts from my worksheet.

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Post subject: Re: Soviet project 956 Sovremenniy destroyer (new version)Posted: May 29th, 2016, 10:41 am
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The detail level....


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Post subject: Re: Soviet project 956 Sovremenniy destroyer (new version)Posted: June 1st, 2016, 9:06 pm
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Excellent series!


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Post subject: Re: Soviet project 956 Sovremenniy destroyer (new version)Posted: June 1st, 2016, 10:34 pm
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It's really a beauty :D

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Post subject: Re: Soviet project 956 Sovremenniy destroyer (new version)Posted: June 2nd, 2016, 7:52 am
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They are wonderful, with many details, but resized (at least as appeared in my computer).


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Post subject: Re: Soviet project 956 Sovremenniy destroyer (new version)Posted: June 2nd, 2016, 9:15 am
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odysseus1980 wrote:
They are wonderful, with many details, but resized (at least as appeared in my computer).
Good catch, thanks.
Well, after much frustrating fiddling about and being told not to fiddle about, this may spell the beginning of the end of my use of Photobucket.
Turns out that the option to display images in their original size is fairly precarious and should remained checked at all times. Not that I'm aware of unchecking it, but that might be a side effect of using a cookie cleaner by default, or else PB is getting short on storage space and really wants this option out of the way. Ah well. I have re-uploaded the images in the last post to dropbox, carefully following the detailed instructions kindly laid out by better members than me in this very useful thread for anyone here still on the fence about their hosting platforms.
I'll try to check my older posts in the next days to see if anything has been retroactively damaged and reupload as required.

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