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Thiel
Post subject: Re: My final Dutch AUPosted: March 11th, 2011, 7:01 pm
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I think the hangar is too narrow for two heloes.
Right now you have first a supersized 76mm, then an even bulkier Goalkeeper, a hangar, another goalkeeper and then a 76mm, assuming the ship is symetrical.

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Post subject: Re: My final Dutch AUPosted: March 11th, 2011, 7:04 pm
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acelanceloet wrote:
that 180 is by miho, I know that for sure. and the 240 you drew was that one that vossiej used? it isn't entirely correct, but neither is mine....
There are 3x 240's.
Old one
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Miho's.

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Post subject: Re: My final Dutch AUPosted: March 11th, 2011, 7:05 pm
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show me please.... I'll look which one will go on the parts sheets....

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Post subject: Re: My final Dutch AUPosted: March 11th, 2011, 7:09 pm
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Why did you cancel the ESSM program?
If memory serves, back then it was on time and on budget.

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Post subject: Re: My final Dutch AUPosted: March 11th, 2011, 8:13 pm
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Thiel wrote:
I think the hangar is too narrow for two heloes.
Right now you have first a supersized 76mm, then an even bulkier Goalkeeper, a hangar, another goalkeeper and then a 76mm, assuming the ship is symetrical.
True, I am thinking of replacing the 76mm with the real life 76mm. And the Goalkeeper is not more wider than the original one. The beam of this ship is 22 meters, so this won't be a problem I guess.

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Post subject: Re: My final Dutch AUPosted: March 11th, 2011, 8:15 pm
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Why make enclosed life rafts(For stealth) and add a pair of 2 in the open in the bow.
Plus why did you make it so un affective in stealth?
You add stealth feature's, but you get rid of an even more stealthier 90's design, and place an 80's style in it.

Meh thanks for using my RAM :ugeek:

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Post subject: Re: My final Dutch AUPosted: March 11th, 2011, 9:19 pm
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Vossiej wrote:
Thiel wrote:
I think the hangar is too narrow for two heloes.
Right now you have first a supersized 76mm, then an even bulkier Goalkeeper, a hangar, another goalkeeper and then a 76mm, assuming the ship is symetrical.
True, I am thinking of replacing the 76mm with the real life 76mm. And the Goalkeeper is not more wider than the original one. The beam of this ship is 22 meters, so this won't be a problem I guess.
Let's see.
The 76mm/62 SR needs a minimum of 4.25m to be able to turn, the Goalkeeper needs close to 5 (Assuming the SB front view is correct)
You have two of each, leaving you with approximately six metres of beam. Not enough to fit two heloes. In fact it's barely enough to fit one big one.

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Post subject: Re: My final Dutch AUPosted: March 11th, 2011, 9:34 pm
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acelanceloet wrote:
show me please.... I'll look which one will go on the parts sheets....
I'll get a STIR240 done ASAP. IIRC it pretty much uses the stabilized mount of the 180, and only the dish and upper mounting struts are different. I'll go hunting for pics.

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Post subject: Re: My final Dutch AUPosted: March 11th, 2011, 9:39 pm
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MihoshiK wrote:
acelanceloet wrote:
show me please.... I'll look which one will go on the parts sheets....
I'll get a STIR240 done ASAP. IIRC it pretty much uses the stabilized mount of the 180, and only the dish and upper mounting struts are different. I'll go hunting for pics.
I've send you my WIP by pm... have you received it? the dish is correct IMO, but I can't get the foot right.

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Post subject: Re: My final Dutch AUPosted: March 11th, 2011, 9:54 pm
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Meh you guys, this is not the STIR thread, if I may be so honest.

Thiel, I'll look into it.
Mitch, are you talkin about the MSMF class or the cruiser? Besides, designs from the mid 1990s were only stealthy in limited ways, compare it to the Burke or early British Horizon destroyers.

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