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Skyder2598
Post subject: Re: United States of VenezuelaPosted: January 24th, 2016, 4:02 pm
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Nice work, love the Interflug variant :-)

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Post subject: Re: United States of VenezuelaPosted: January 25th, 2016, 11:05 am
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Thanks for the comments everyone.

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Post subject: Re: United States of VenezuelaPosted: January 25th, 2016, 11:36 am
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Those supersonic aircraft were certainly beautiful looking.

You have done a good job with keeping the power and sleek lines in the drawing.

Well done Kike.


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Post subject: Re: United States of VenezuelaPosted: February 2nd, 2016, 9:44 pm
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CAV - AC10-100 Viasa (1980)
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The CAV AC10 is a wide-body commercial airliner and cargo transport aircraft, and it was the first wide-body produced in Venezuela. Manufactured by Construcciones Aeronauticas Venezolanas unit, the original version of the AC10 had twice the capacity of CAV's AC7, one of the common large commercial aircraft of the 1960s. The AC10 was conceived while air travel was increasing in the 1960s. The era of commercial jet transportation, led by the enormous popularity of the Boeing 707 and Douglas DC-8, had revolutionized long-distance travel. In 1965 Venezolana Internacional de Aviación (Viasa), one of their most important airline customers, asked CAV to build a passenger aircraft more than twice the size of the AC7. During this time, airport congestion, worsened by increasing numbers of passengers carried on relatively small aircraft, became a problem that was thought could be addressed by a large new aircraft.

At the time, it was widely thought that the AC10 would eventually be superseded by the AC11 supersonic transport aircraft. CAV responded by designing the AC10 so that it could be adapted easily to carry freight and remain in production even if sales of the passenger version declined.As CAV did not have a plant large enough to assemble the giant airliner, they chose to build a new plant. The company considered locations in about 40 cities, and eventually decided to build the new plant near Manuel Carlos Piar Guayana Airport of Ciudad Guayana on the Bolívar State. It bought the site in June 1966

One of the principal technologies that enabled an aircraft as large as the AC10 to be conceived was the high-bypass turbofan engine. The engine technology was thought to be capable of delivering double the power of the earlier turbojets while consuming a third less fuel. Aerotécnica had the task of designing and building the engines that would power the aircraft. Development of what became known as the TR-11A turbofan started in 1965 with the first engine tested in 1969. Additionally, some of the most advanced high-lift devices used in the industry were included in the new design, to allow it to operate from existing airports.

On October 12, 1969, the first AC10 was rolled out of the Ciudad Guayana assembly building before the world's press and representatives of the airlines that had ordered the airliner. Over the following months, preparations were made for the first flight, which took place on January 10, 1970. The flight confirmed that the AC10 handled extremely well. The AC10 was found to be largely immune to "Dutch roll", a phenomenon that had been a major hazard to the early swept-wing jets. The AC10-100 entered service on September 22, 1970, on Viasa's Caracas–London route. The AC10-100 enjoyed a fairly smooth introduction into service, overcoming concerns that some airports would not be able to accommodate an aircraft that large. Although technical problems occurred, they were relatively minor and quickly solved.

General characteristics

Crew: 3 + 6 flight attendants
Capacity: 252-522 passengers
Length: 70 m (229,66 ft)
Wingspan: 63.45 metres (208 ft 2 in)
Height: 17.95 m (42,16 ft)
Wing area: 439.4 square metres (4,730 sq ft)
Empty weight: 146.160 kg (322.227,41 lb)
Max. takeoff weight: 300.051 kg (661.498,74 lb)
Powerplant: 4 × Aerotécnica TR-11A-50 turbofan, 50.000 lbf dry thrust each

Performance

Maximum speed: Mach 0.89 (594 mph, 955 km/h, 516 kn)
Range: 10,200 km (6909,65 mi)
Service ceiling: 43,000 ft (13,105 m)

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Post subject: Re: United States of VenezuelaPosted: February 4th, 2016, 7:37 pm
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Very nice, although 1969 seems fast for a wide-body airliner from outside USA or Western Europe. :)


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Post subject: Re: United States of VenezuelaPosted: February 28th, 2016, 3:36 pm
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CAV AC-6 Family

The CAV AC-6 is a Venezuelan turboprop airliner built by CAV. First flown in 1957, it was the first large turboprop airliner built in Venezuela. With its unique high power-to-weight ratio, large propellers, large Fowler flaps which significantly increased effective wing area when extended, and four-engined design, the airplane had airfield performance capabilities unmatched by many jet transport aircraft even today particularly on short runways and high field elevations. Turboprops were soon replaced by turbojets and many AC-6’s were modified as freighters. Some aircraft are still being used in various roles into the 21st century primarily as freighters. The airframe was also used as the basis for the military E-1 Vigilante AWACS and the P-1 Mako maritime patrol aircraft.

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Post subject: Re: United States of VenezuelaPosted: February 29th, 2016, 8:37 am
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I like the looks of all of these, reminds me of the Il-18 family. Nice work.

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Post subject: Re: United States of VenezuelaPosted: February 29th, 2016, 6:21 pm
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Post subject: Re: United States of VenezuelaPosted: March 2nd, 2016, 6:54 pm
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Hi Kike92!
I really like the AC-6 airframe design, but comparing it with simmilar designs of that time, like the Bristol Britannia, Lockheed Electra or Vickers Vanguard, I feel like the AC-6 cabin arragement is a little "too contemporary" and not very "50-60'ssh"... Like a A320 trapped in an old airframe. :D
IMHO I think that with these changes it would gain a more late 50's style layout... Feel free to disagree... ;)
_ The flight crew would almost certainly consist of, at least, 3 people, and also 50-60's avioncs were bulkier... so I probably move the front door a little aft, leaving more room for the cockpit.
_ I think that an all full-sized pax doors configuration was very rare in on those years. It was a far more common practice to fit smaller service doors on starboard side.
_ It was also not uncommon to place galleys or toillets "amidship", and to have an all-lenght unobstructed seating compartment was rare, so I probably remove a couple of windows to reflect where those service areas where located...

This is an even more personal opinion :) : Don´t know when the P-1 production started, but judging for the "A" letter, this one seems an early example... I would change the ECM/ESM wingtip pods with a more "classical" AC-6B/D's fuel tank, tipped with a searchlight, leaving the ECM pods for more modern variants, when LLLTV/FLIR turrets make Searchlights superfluous.

The P-1 seems to lack either the typical ventral 360º search radar (unless it's retractable... :roll: ) nor a second rear search radar antenna (à la P-3)... It can work like that, but almost surely will have coverage limitations...

By the way, the outboard engine bottom propeller blade seems longer than the rest :?

Well, these are just my thoughts to "improve" a fantastic and already very plausible design... as I previously said, feel free to disagree with them!!!
Nice nice work!

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Post subject: Re: United States of VenezuelaPosted: March 10th, 2016, 8:57 pm
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Hi everyone, this is the updated AC-6 following the advice given by Progress, will i was doing it i also came up with new variants.

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