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BB1987
Post subject: Re: The Federal Monarchy Of Tol GalenPosted: February 19th, 2016, 11:17 pm
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They look great to me, excellent work!

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Post subject: Re: The Federal Monarchy Of Tol GalenPosted: February 20th, 2016, 1:43 am
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Good looking fast BB, BB.


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Post subject: Re: The Federal Monarchy Of Tol GalenPosted: February 20th, 2016, 2:40 am
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Agreed. I like how you designed and depicted the Octagonal structure. Top notch!

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Post subject: Re: The Federal Monarchy Of Tol GalenPosted: February 20th, 2016, 6:33 am
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Fantastic looking ship, I like the blend of British and American features.

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erik_t
Post subject: Re: The Federal Monarchy Of Tol GalenPosted: February 20th, 2016, 3:10 pm
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Very attractive. Why is the 13mm (?) tub aft colored differently from everything else?


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Blackbuck
Post subject: Re: The Federal Monarchy Of Tol GalenPosted: February 20th, 2016, 3:48 pm
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BB1987 wrote:
They look great to me, excellent work!
Ta! :)
Krakatoa wrote:
Good looking fast BB, BB.
Cheers, their half-sisters shall be following shortly.
ezgo394 wrote:
Agreed. I like how you designed and depicted the Octagonal structure. Top notch!
Cheers, the final result doesn't look like a giant postbox!
Rowdy36 wrote:
Fantastic looking ship, I like the blend of British and American features.
Ta! It's an awkward thing to get looking right :geek:
erik_t wrote:
Very attractive. Why is the 13mm (?) tub aft coloured differently from everything else?
Huh? There's splinter mattresses here and there but nothing else differently coloured.

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Post subject: Re: The Federal Monarchy Of Tol GalenPosted: February 20th, 2016, 7:42 pm
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Macha Class Fast Battleship

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The two ships in the class (Macha and Nemain) are the half-sisters of Ealga and Etain being laid down to a modified design originally worked out in detail as one of the Ealga proposals. As such they are built much the same with similar machinery and compartment arrangements. The main difference between them and their precursors are the larger 420mm guns and generally increased overall size.
Unlike Ealga and Etain the two Macha class ships were designed to operate closer to home with the threat of the Bismarck and Littorio classes to contend with they only reached the Pacific in the early part of April 1945 wherein they joined ranks with their sisters to form force X with a screening force of four cruisers and two light carriers, they operated together until the end of the war when Macha and Nemain returned to home waters.

Specifications as designed unless stated otherwise.

HMGS Macha- MC (1942)
HMGS Nemain - NM (1943)

Dimensions in feet and inches, weights in tons

Dimensions
Length PP: 790ft
Length OA: 850ft
Beam (Max): 105ft
Draught (Mean): 30ft

Power + Speed
Power (Normal): 150,000SHP
Power (Forced): 165,000SHP
Speed (Clean): 30kts

Total Fuel Capacity: 3,800tons

Vertical Armour
Magazines
  • Belt (Above WL) 15"
  • Belt (Below WL) 15"
Machinery
  • Belt (Above WL): 14"
  • Belt (Below WL): 14"
Non-Citadel
  • Belt (Above WL): 12" tapering to 10"
  • Belt (Below WL): 10" tapering to 8"
Horizontal Armour
Magazines
  • Main Deck: 7"
  • Lower Deck: Splinter Protection
Machinery
  • Main Deck: 6"
  • Lower Deck: Splinter Protection
Non-Citadel
  • Main Deck Splinter Protection
  • Lower Deck 5"
Bulkheads: 12"

Barbettes
Main Guns Barbettes: 15"
DP Guns Barbettes: 2"
Turret Armour
Main Guns
Turret Front: 13"
  • Turret Side: 9"
  • Turret Rear: 6"
  • Turret Roof: 6"
DP Guns
Turret Front: 4"
  • Turret Side: 3"
  • Turret Rear: 2"
  • Turret Roof: 2"
Torpedo Defence System
  • Triple-bottom under machinery and magazines with double-bottom elsewhere
  • Compartmented into 28 watertight compartments
  • Water-filled internal bulges between lower belt and torpedo belt
Torpedo Bulkhead: 2"

Conning Tower
Back + Front: 3"
Sides: 3"
Floor + Roof: 3"
Conning Tower Trunks: 2"
Director Trunks: 2"
Funnel Uptakes 1" and 2"
Splinter Shields: 1" to 3"

Weights (Est.)

General Equipment: 1,300tons
Machinery: 3,550tons
Armament: 7,200tons
Armour: 15,500tons
Hull: 15,750tons
Total: 43,300tons

Armament

1944
Main Armament: 9x16.2"/45 (3x3)
DP Armament: 16x 5.1"/40 (8x2)
AA Armament:
  • 72x 23mm x122 L70 HS.407 Cannon in single and twin mounts
  • 56x 40mm x311/56 Bofors in stabilised twin mounts and US-pattern quad mounts
  • Numerous 13.2mm x99 and 7mm x57 machine guns
1945
Main Armament: 9x16.2"/45 (3x3)
DP Armament: 16x 5.1"/40 (8x2)
AA Armament:
  • 42x 23mm x122 L70 HS.407 Cannon in single and twin mounts
  • 56x 30mm x170 L75 HS.411 Cannon in quad mounts
  • 60x 40mm x311/56 Bofors in stabilised twin mounts and US-pattern quad mounts
  • Numerous 13.2mm x99 and 7mm x57 machine guns
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BB1987
Post subject: Re: The Federal Monarchy Of Tol GalenPosted: February 20th, 2016, 8:06 pm
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Wow those are some big beasts. 420mm guns, You are fielding the most powerful battleships after the Yamatos :D (Don't misunderstand, I do like!)
One thing though, "Main Armament: 9x14"/50 (3x3)" is possibly a typo left from the Ealga Class specs table. And oh, I've just noticed the searchlights, I appreciate it!

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Blackbuck
Post subject: Re: The Federal Monarchy Of Tol GalenPosted: February 20th, 2016, 8:19 pm
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Why yes, yes that was a typo! As for the main armament, that's out of a paranoia about the Axis battleships.

I've used bits and bobs from both the IJN and KM part sheets where they look right rather than drawing new parts as people have taken the time to draw things, why not put them to good use!

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erik_t
Post subject: Re: The Federal Monarchy Of Tol GalenPosted: February 20th, 2016, 9:54 pm
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Attractive, but it feels very not-tight from a design standpoint. Your machinery box is almost 50' longer than an Iowa's, for substantially less power. You could attribute some of that to better subdivision, but it seems like we should reap greater gains for such a long box.


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