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Krakatoa
Post subject: Re: Fisherless Royal NavyPosted: June 24th, 2015, 1:53 pm
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Post subject: Re: Fisherless Royal NavyPosted: June 24th, 2015, 4:18 pm
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You've gotta make a backstory for that beast, that is possibly one of the coolest ships drawn, in my opinion of course, looks even better than the original iowa!


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Post subject: Re: Fisherless Royal NavyPosted: June 25th, 2015, 2:51 am
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Backstory added to drawing of the Duke Of York.


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Post subject: Re: Fisherless Royal NavyPosted: June 25th, 2015, 3:14 am
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Very nice :)

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Post subject: Re: Fisherless Royal NavyPosted: June 25th, 2015, 7:49 am
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Actually it doesn't look too bad.
To me though the Iowa superstructure seems more cluttered with lots of nooks and crannys while the KGVs, Lions and Vanguards were quite blocky but sleek.

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Post subject: Re: Fisherless Royal NavyPosted: June 25th, 2015, 8:04 am
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Wicked!


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Post subject: Re: Fisherless Royal NavyPosted: June 25th, 2015, 8:17 pm
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Erebus class Monitors.

Being a Fisherless RN causes its own problems. There were originally to be 7 R class battleships when Jackie Fisher hi-jacked the last two for his Renown class battlecruisers. With three turrets on the Renowns and four on the R's this leaves 2 spares which became the monitors Erebus and Terror. Since I have cancelled the two Renowns and the three Courageous type LBC's and replaced them with the three Barfleur class there is now a glut of twin 15" and of course the two single 18" that were to arm the Furious. The two Erebus still get built with two of the spare twin 15" but the rest of the guns are used by mounting them in the new triple turrets built for the Barfleur class. This leaves the two single 18" turrets to get to sea. I build two extra Erebus class hulls and fit them with the two single 18". Completed in 1917 the two ships spend the last year of the war bombarding the German positions in the Flanders region of Belgium. They also lend support to the Zeebruge raid.

Used as training ships during the inter-war period Gorgon and Medusa had very little done to them to prepare them for the next war. By 1939 the low angle 4" had been replaced with high angle 4" and the 3" AA had been replaced with single 2pd AA guns. By 1941 the Gorgon was armed with 1x18", 8x4", 4x2pd, 8x20mm. The Medusa had been sunk, by aircraft, off Dover during the Dunkerque withdrawal. The Gorgon had been in the Mediterranean and along with the other Monitors of the support squadron spent their time running stores along the coast of Egypt and Libya supplying both stores and gunfire support where needed. Their greatest enemy were the aircraft of the Germans and Italians with two of the three Monitor losses being to aircraft. They were just too slow to dodge. In one memorable engagement the Gorgon engaged a regiment of German tanks, exchanging fire with Panzer III and IV tanks armed with 37, 50, and 75mm guns. The 18" and 4" of the Gorgon took deadly toll of the German tanks that were forced off the coast road and into the desert, holding up the advance of the Regiment for days while repairs were made to the remaining tanks. The end for Gorgon came in 1943 while supporting the Anzio landings, when the ship was hit by two glider bombs, the ship turned turtle and remained above water with the tripod stuck in the sand below the water and only the hull showing. The next tide flipped the ship over but not before several holes had been cut in the hull to allow trapped sailors to escape.

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bezobrazov
Post subject: Re: Fisherless Royal NavyPosted: June 26th, 2015, 12:18 am
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Hmmm...I have to differ from many of the laudatory comments here re: DofY. It does not look well composed/designed at all...alas. One really glaring and badly drawn/calculated section is the stern, which, quite frankly looks very amateurish in concept and execution. For instance: what is the reasoning for that oddly undulating curvature leading from the leading edge of the nominal sternpost up towards the actual cruiser-stern? It does not make sense what so ever.

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Post subject: Re: Fisherless Royal NavyPosted: June 26th, 2015, 12:38 am
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Ari - I am not sure what you are referring to - I did not make any changes to the hull/stern, that I am aware of. The piece that you are referring to is a part of Bombheads original drawing.

I am quite happy for you to do a ColombanMike on me and put circles on a drawing to highlight what you feel is wrong.


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bezobrazov
Post subject: Re: Fisherless Royal NavyPosted: June 26th, 2015, 1:36 am
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Ok, got that, and, no, I won't demean you that way by pulling that on you! So, it may simply be that I never paid attention to something on an original drawing? That's perfectly plausible, especially if I'm not totally in to it!

But, to that I must also add, that if you decide to use parts or whole of another artist's drawings, it is also up to you to be mindful of possible mistakes in any sort of way! So, again, (and this is not then your doing, I understand...) if you look at your aft floatplane and the hull underneath, you'll see it's oddly bulging or undulating in around the proximities f the propeller shafts; especially the inner ones. I'd recalculate that, and perhaps create a less extreme curvature while I'm at it.

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