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Now for something completely different.

This would fit on the quarterdecks of the last few ships I have drawn.

One of the Mosquito Fleet, this is my version of the 73 foot MTB. I have armed it with a single 40mm forward, single 20mm aft, 2 x 0.5" Browning machine guns on swivel mountings on top of the two torpedoes. The torpedoes are 18".




I have built many of these models from the Airfix 1/72nd kitset with many differing armaments. I will look at doing a few of those to add to this post.

A small vessel, armed "to the teeth" so this is what I like Good work! Must be horrible to sail...

Fantastic work Krakatoa Escellent drawing

Can't wait to see more small ships

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Very nice work.

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English Electric Canberra FD
Interwar RN Capital Ships
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I'm still trying to think of a good type of ship for my 'Admiral' class (Hood, Rodney, Nelson, Anson, Howe). Light cruisers did not feel right, I do not think MTB's would be suitable either. Any suggestions to fit in with what is already there?

I did think about a one-for-one replacement of the 'R' class ships from 1936, using their turrets with the 'Vanguard' enhancements for greater range and super shell.

i think a bb admiral class would be best as hms hood with anything less than 15 inch guns just doesn't seem right

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The 'R' class were allowed to be replaced by Treaty at 20 years of age. By 1935 the 'R' class had outlived its usefulness. But as spare parts the whole class had a part to play in the future RN. The future that the RN had pursued since 1917 was the fast battleship. The 'R' class was the last of the old generation. Knowing that the end of the Treaty's and the replacement time were at hand the RN started the design process for its 35,000 ton battleships in 1933. The RN wanted the first of its replacement ships laid down as close to the day as possible. The designs centred on two streams. A set of three new ships with 9x15" as the main armament and a set of up to five ships utilising as many parts off the 'R' class, including main armament, as much of the armour as possible and recycling as much of the steel from the ships. It was felt that this would not only reduce the cost but would also reduce the building time. The two streams would share the same hull and dimensions but the internal layout would be different because of the four twins versus the three triples. The first of the new 'Admiral' class ships was laid down at the start of 1936 and completion in July of 1939. The ships were to be named HMS Hood, HMS Rodney, HMS Nelson, HMS Anson, and HMS Howe.

The armament at time of completion was:
8 x 15" (4x2)
20 x 4.5" (10x2)
48 x 2pd (5x8 2x4)
4 aircraft

Armour: 13" belt, 6.5" deck

Looks nice but I don't think it will fit on 35,000t SD (closer to 40 me thinks vanguard was 45 how have you cut 10,000t ?)

I have tried loads of R class rebuild myself (as have loads of my betters) they all fall down on,
- Never acceptable (prestige, service life, performance) to use old guns/mounts till too late (emergency war class) to actually get them finished.
- Prestige, RN goes first class, BB are the most important ship (and only just finished limited in numbers by treaty) so unacceptable to build 2nd class battleships (who will only be 1/4 cheaper and will slow down real BB production/ eat up numbers in any treaty)
- Service life, they are going to serve for 20+ years and rule the waves (what are you talking about CV are just the eyes of the fleet the real fighting is done by battleship !)
- Performance, you are really going to saddle the RN with lesser guns than Italy, Germany, France and Japan ! (and USA)
- The old belt is too week (thin, short and old quality) so you need new that cuts into other new BB production. (and you will need new deck cutting BB and CV)
- can't get 4 x 2 15' on a 35kt ships with desired speed (28Kn) and protection (ie as KVG), going to 3 x 3 (or 2 x4) works but doesn't save much as the mounts cost a lot, you might as well have new guns as well.

Apart from that with hindsight that you only need them for 8 years (37-45) they will become CV escorts by 43/44 that numbers matter (no treaty) and you only have 2 years (37-39) to build them they make very good sense.

Back to your drawing I like, maybe to much AA for 39 ? (don't like turret 2pdr due to reloading and deflecting shells down, 4 or 6 should be fine on superstructure) (and don't think your numbers add up ? 5 x 8 not 7 x 8 ?)

I'm quite curious as to whether this ships play into the official "fisherless au" when you already have the nelson and rodney, as such you cant have two ships of the same name. With that, would these be considered a KGV replacement ship or would the kgv continue to exist in this universe?

Howdy Dmitry97,
These last few Capital ships have been exploring JSB's vision of the Fisherless RN. Which has given me a reason to do a few more drawings.
In the JSB/FRN I complete the Goliath and Bulwark as 12x15" BB's instead of Nelson and Rodney. The fourth Majestic class ship HMS Albion is the ship converted to a carrier. The purpose built CV Apollo being the extra carrier to make up the pair of big carriers. The three new 9x15" ships are the KGV class, followed by the 45,000 ton 9x16 Duke of York class.

Hope that explains the deviation from the page one ships. I have not added these to page one unless they fit in with the "Official" version.

JSB:
Vanguard is 50-60 foot longer and was designed at 45k. Surely you are aware of that extra 10,000 tons between the designs of the KGV and Vanguard.
Through to 1920 the RN may have still fooled itself about prestige, but the British Parliament believed in cold hard cash. Give Parliament a 25% or more saving on a batch of BB's how do you think they would vote?
Those Mk.1 15" were acknowledged as one of the best big guns ever designed. Give it the 'Vanguard' work, more elevation for greater range and the super shell and it is as good as any of the competitions. I keep those guns because all of my BB's in this scenario are armed with 15". Would it be seen as building 2nd class ships with 14"?
Armour at 13" belt is not thin when compared to the competition. US ships were 12", Germany 12.6" only Japan really outclassed it, but then Yamato outclassed everything else. With the armour, I do not think that the one sheet of armour off an 'R' would be long enough to cover the necessary areas of an Admiral. My thought was to use one and the bit necessary to cover the area required. If you wanted to end up building all five then the last two would probably require new armour - but that would have been allowed for in the planning and would not take anything away from the other lines of construction. A slab of steel 13" thick is going to take a bit to get through no matter how old it is.

I do note in the armament list the 2pd are 5x8 and 2x4. The turret tops are quads.

So what happens if this Hood appears in the Denmark Strait with Bismarck. Another mushroom cloud?