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Post subject: Re: Imperial Swedish NavyPosted: April 8th, 2015, 7:45 pm
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That indeed does look impressive. As always, great to see new drawings here!


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Post subject: Re: Imperial Swedish NavyPosted: April 8th, 2015, 8:15 pm
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you always do a good work on these vessels.


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Post subject: Re: Imperial Swedish NavyPosted: May 20th, 2015, 7:44 pm
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HSwMS Kronprinsessan Louise, airdefence cruiser. The class was a swedish response to the growing airthreat especially from the japanese airforces in pacific theater. The have lots of similarites to the RN Didos and USN Atlantas. The ships are named after the crownprinsess Louise who is the siser of lord Louis Mountbatten, Earl of Burma. The second ship is named Eugenie after the RSwNs first circum navigation and a royal princess

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Sweden Airdefence cruiser laid down 1942
Kronprinsessan Louise (Eugenie)

Displacement:
5 973 t light; 6 241 t standard; 6 800 t normal; 7 247 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(504,96 ft / 492,13 ft) x 52,49 ft x (19,69 / 20,60 ft)
(153,91 m / 150,00 m) x 16,00 m x (6,00 / 6,28 m)

Armament:
12 - 4,72" / 120 mm 45,0 cal guns - 53,18lbs / 24,12kg shells, 250 per gun
Dual purpose guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1942 Model
4 x Twin mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
2 raised mounts - superfiring
2 x Twin mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
2 double raised mounts
8 - 2,95" / 75,0 mm 50,0 cal guns - 13,62lbs / 6,18kg shells, 500 per gun
Breech loading guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1942 Model
4 x Twin mounts on sides, evenly spread
20 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 60,0 cal guns - 2,14lbs / 0,97kg shells, 500 per gun
Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1936 Model
8 x Twin mounts on sides, evenly spread
8 raised mounts
2 x Twin mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
12 - 0,98" / 25,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 0,48lbs / 0,22kg shells, 500 per gun
Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1932 Model
6 x Twin mounts on sides, evenly spread
6 double raised mounts
Weight of broadside 796 lbs / 361 kg
Mines
2 - 881,85 lbs / 400,00 kg mines + 40 reloads - 16,535 t total
in Above water - Stern racks/rails

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 1,97" / 50 mm 344,49 ft / 105,00 m 8,69 ft / 2,65 m
Ends: 0,39" / 10 mm 131,23 ft / 40,00 m 8,69 ft / 2,65 m
16,40 ft / 5,00 m Unarmoured ends
Upper: 0,39" / 10 mm 328,08 ft / 100,00 m 8,01 ft / 2,44 m
Main Belt covers 108 % of normal length

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 1,97" / 50 mm 0,98" / 25 mm 1,97" / 50 mm
2nd: 0,98" / 25 mm 0,39" / 10 mm 0,98" / 25 mm

- Armoured deck - multiple decks:
For and Aft decks: 1,77" / 45 mm
Forecastle: 0,79" / 20 mm Quarter deck: 0,79" / 20 mm

- Conning towers: Forward 1,97" / 50 mm, Aft 1,97" / 50 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 2 shafts, 74 331 shp / 55 451 Kw = 33,00 kts
Range 5 000nm at 16,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 1 005 tons

Complement:
373 - 486

Cost:
£3,552 million / $14,208 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 220 tons, 3,2 %
- Guns: 199 tons, 2,9 %
- Weapons: 21 tons, 0,3 %
Armour: 1 022 tons, 15,0 %
- Belts: 299 tons, 4,4 %
- Armament: 184 tons, 2,7 %
- Armour Deck: 507 tons, 7,5 %
- Conning Towers: 30 tons, 0,4 %
Machinery: 1 942 tons, 28,6 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 2 640 tons, 38,8 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 827 tons, 12,2 %
Miscellaneous weights: 150 tons, 2,2 %
- Hull below water: 25 tons
- Hull above water: 50 tons
- On freeboard deck: 25 tons
- Above deck: 50 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
7 596 lbs / 3 446 Kg = 144,1 x 4,7 " / 120 mm shells or 1,2 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,08
Metacentric height 2,2 ft / 0,7 m
Roll period: 14,9 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 52 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,44
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,04

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck,
a normal bow and small transom stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,468 / 0,477
Length to Beam Ratio: 9,38 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 23,92 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 62 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 20,00 degrees
Stern overhang: 3,28 ft / 1,00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 20,00 %, 26,25 ft / 8,00 m, 22,97 ft / 7,00 m
- Forward deck: 30,00 %, 22,97 ft / 7,00 m, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m
- Aft deck: 35,00 %, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m
- Quarter deck: 15,00 %, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m
- Average freeboard: 20,03 ft / 6,11 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 105,7 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 171,0 %
Waterplane Area: 17 123 Square feet or 1 591 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 117 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 90 lbs/sq ft or 440 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0,91
- Longitudinal: 2,24
- Overall: 1,00
Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Excellent accommodation and workspace room

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Post subject: Re: Imperial Swedish NavyPosted: May 21st, 2015, 9:36 pm
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Looks great.


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Post subject: Re: Imperial Swedish NavyPosted: May 22nd, 2015, 7:50 am
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Looks very nice. Seems a nice balanced design.

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Post subject: Re: Imperial Swedish NavyPosted: July 13th, 2015, 11:46 am
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The Niord class is the primary replacement for the Äran class airdefence cruisers and the Kung Carl assult ships. The Niords are often tasked as CVBG airdefence command and control ships or flagships for their own task groups.

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Niord (Thule, Giötha, Finland)
Strike cruiser
Laid down: 1989-1994

Displacement:
8 456 t light; 8 749 t standard; 10 009 t normal; 11 017 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(638,46 ft / 616,80 ft) x 59,06 ft x (21,33 / 22,79 ft)
(194,60 m / 188,00 m) x 18,00 m x (6,50 / 6,95 m)

Armament:
4 - 5,98" / 152 mm 50,0 cal guns - 113,45lbs / 51,46kg shells, 300 per gun
Auto rapid fire guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1950 Model
2 x 2 row twin mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
1 raised mount aft - superfiring
5 - 2,24" / 57,0 mm 60,0 cal guns - 6,19lbs / 2,81kg shells, 1 000 per gun
Auto rapid fire guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1950 Model
4 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
4 raised mounts
1 x Single mount on centreline forward
1 raised mount
Weight of broadside 485 lbs / 220 kg

Missiles
1x Mk41 VLS 48 missiles
6x4 MK143 ABM for TLAM
12x RBS 15 SSM

Sensors
PS-860/ SPS-48E 3d air serach
PS-865/ Type 996 3d air/ surface search
PN-621/ X-band navigational radar
PQ-866 ESM
PJ-866 EA
PE-92 FC gun
PE62/ SPG G2 FC missile

Aircraft
pad & hangar for two medium helicopters

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 1,97" / 50 mm 360,89 ft / 110,00 m 9,22 ft / 2,81 m
Ends: 0,79" / 20 mm 213,25 ft / 65,00 m 9,22 ft / 2,81 m
42,65 ft / 13,00 m Unarmoured ends
Upper: 0,79" / 20 mm 348,43 ft / 106,20 m 8,01 ft / 2,44 m
Main Belt covers 90 % of normal length
Main Belt inclined 15,00 degrees (positive = in)

- Hull void:
0,20" / 5 mm 360,89 ft / 110,00 m 6,56 ft / 2,00 m

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 1,97" / 50 mm 0,79" / 20 mm 1,97" / 50 mm
2nd: 0,79" / 20 mm 0,20" / 5 mm 0,20" / 5 mm

- Armoured deck - multiple decks:
For and Aft decks: 0,39" / 10 mm
Forecastle: 1,38" / 35 mm Quarter deck: 0,39" / 10 mm

- Conning towers: Forward 3,94" / 100 mm, Aft 3,94" / 100 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 2 shafts, 89 397 shp / 66 690 Kw = 34,00 kts
Range 7 500nm at 18,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 2 268 tons

Complement:
499 - 650

Cost:
£5,062 million / $20,248 million



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Post subject: Re: Imperial Swedish NavyPosted: July 13th, 2015, 6:54 pm
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Looking very nice. You managed to capture the Slava feeling, without it just feeling like a carbon copy, but having its own very distinct appearance.


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Post subject: Re: Imperial Swedish NavyPosted: July 23rd, 2016, 10:17 pm
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HSwMS Segervissheten (Victorious) is named after the motto of the Swedish military academy "Ihärdighet & Segervisshet" (Victorious & Perservence) and was together with her sister HMS Ihärdigheten the training ships aswell as flagships for the Navalacademy squodron 1930-1940 and 1946-1960.

HMS Ihärdigheten was lost in battle with the japanese in Java sea in 1942 while the Segervissheten manage to limp to Australia after the battle. Many midshipmen where lost on the Ihärdigheten. Segervissheten was repaired and fought on in the Pacific until the peace broke out in 1945.

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Sweden
Cruiser
Laid down 1928
HMS Segervissheten (Ihärdigheten)

Displacement:
8 861 t light; 9 370 t standard; 10 000 t normal; 10 504 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(581,18 ft / 574,15 ft) x 65,62 ft x (19,69 / 20,41 ft)
(177,14 m / 175,00 m) x 20,00 m x (6,00 / 6,22 m)

Armament:
9 - 8,27" / 210 mm 45,0 cal guns - 284,98lbs / 129,26kg shells, 150 per gun
Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1928 Model
3 x 3-gun mounts on centreline, forward evenly spread
1 raised mount
10 - 5,98" / 152 mm 45,0 cal guns - 108,07lbs / 49,02kg shells, 150 per gun
Quick firing guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1912 Model
4 x Twin mounts on sides, aft evenly spread
1 x Twin mount on centreline, aft deck aft
4 - 2,24" / 57,0 mm 55,0 cal guns - 6,10lbs / 2,77kg shells, 250 per gun
Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1918 Model
4 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
4 raised mounts
12 - 0,98" / 25,0 mm 55,0 cal guns - 0,51lbs / 0,23kg shells, 500 per gun
Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1928 Model
6 x Twin mounts on sides, evenly spread
6 raised mounts
Weight of broadside 3 676 lbs / 1 667 kg
Main Torpedoes
2 - 21,0" / 533 mm, 22,97 ft / 7,00 m torpedoes - 1,508 t each, 3,017 t total
In 2 sets of deck mounted side rotating tubes
2nd Torpedoes
2 - 21,0" / 533 mm, 22,97 ft / 7,00 m torpedoes - 1,508 t each, 3,017 t total
submerged bow tubes

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 3,35" / 85 mm 373,20 ft / 113,75 m 9,71 ft / 2,96 m
Ends: 0,79" / 20 mm 200,92 ft / 61,24 m 9,71 ft / 2,96 m
Upper: 0,79" / 20 mm 373,20 ft / 113,75 m 8,01 ft / 2,44 m
Main Belt covers 100 % of normal length

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 4,92" / 125 mm 2,95" / 75 mm 4,92" / 125 mm
2nd: 2,95" / 75 mm 1,18" / 30 mm 1,97" / 50 mm
3rd: 0,20" / 5 mm - -
4th: 0,20" / 5 mm - -

- Armoured deck - multiple decks:
For and Aft decks: 1,18" / 30 mm
Forecastle: 0,39" / 10 mm Quarter deck: 0,39" / 10 mm

- Conning towers: Forward 1,97" / 50 mm, Aft 1,97" / 50 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 2 shafts, 57 893 shp / 43 189 Kw = 29,00 kts
Range 4 000nm at 16,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 1 134 tons

Complement:
499 - 650

Cost:
£3,464 million / $13,858 million

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Post subject: Re: Imperial Swedish NavyPosted: July 23rd, 2016, 10:44 pm
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The only comment I would make would be on the 6" secondary's. The whole Dreadnought thing had been to replace the mixed armament pre-dreads with single armament ships. I would replace your 6" with 4.7" and eventually with 4.7" DP guns.

(You still have a bit of green at the bow end)


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Post subject: Re: Imperial Swedish NavyPosted: July 23rd, 2016, 10:57 pm
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Well I have thought of that to, my standard DP gun at the time is 105mm,but the 6" is very common in my navy I wanted to use that on a traning cruiser. The 105mm DP was under development at the time, a shorter barreled 105mm was used on the Finland in 1925. I will test it.

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