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Psilander
Post subject: Re: Imperial Swedish NavyPosted: December 14th, 2014, 12:14 am
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The HSwMS Valkyria (Valkyrie)

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Valkyria, Fylgia, Tordön, Tirfing
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Armored Cruiser laid down 1905 (Engine 1906)

Displacement:
9 488 t light; 9 980 t standard; 10 703 t normal; 11 281 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(472,44 ft / 459,32 ft) x 72,18 ft x (19,69 / 20,54 ft)
(144,00 m / 140,00 m) x 22,00 m x (6,00 / 6,26 m)

Armament:
8 - 8,27" / 210 mm 45,0 cal guns - 284,97lbs / 129,26kg shells, 150 per gun
Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1905 Model
3 x Twin mounts on centreline ends, majority aft
2 x Single mounts on sides amidships
8 - 5,98" / 152 mm 45,0 cal guns - 108,07lbs / 49,02kg shells, 150 per gun
Quick firing guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1905 Model
4 x Twin mounts on side ends, evenly spread
12 - 2,95" / 75,0 mm 50,0 cal guns - 13,62lbs / 6,18kg shells, 150 per gun
Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1905 Model
12 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
8 raised mounts
2 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in heavy seas
2 - 2,95" / 75,0 mm 50,0 cal guns - 13,62lbs / 6,18kg shells, 150 per gun
Quick firing guns in casemate mounts, 1905 Model
2 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck forward
2 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in heavy seas
Weight of broadside 3 335 lbs / 1 513 kg
Main Torpedoes
4 - 17,7" / 450 mm, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m torpedoes - 0,827 t each, 3,309 t total
submerged bow tubes

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 5,91" / 150 mm 301,18 ft / 91,80 m 10,20 ft / 3,11 m
Ends: 1,97" / 50 mm 157,48 ft / 48,00 m 10,20 ft / 3,11 m
0,66 ft / 0,20 m Unarmoured ends
Upper: 1,97" / 50 mm 298,56 ft / 91,00 m 8,01 ft / 2,44 m
Main Belt covers 101 % of normal length
Main belt does not fully cover magazines and engineering spaces

- Hull void:
0,00" / 0 mm 0,00 ft / 0,00 m 0,00 ft / 0,00 m

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 5,91" / 150 mm 2,95" / 75 mm 6,89" / 175 mm
2nd: 3,15" / 80 mm 1,18" / 30 mm 3,94" / 100 mm
3rd: 0,39" / 10 mm - -

- Protected deck - single deck:
For and Aft decks: 1,57" / 40 mm
Forecastle: 0,79" / 20 mm Quarter deck: 0,79" / 20 mm

- Conning towers: Forward 5,91" / 150 mm, Aft 29,72" / 755 mm

Machinery:
Coal fired boilers, steam turbines,
Direct drive, 4 shafts, 33 883 shp / 25 277 Kw = 24,00 kts
Range 4 500nm at 10,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 1 301 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
525 - 683

Cost:
£0,977 million / $3,908 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 793 tons, 7,4 %
- Guns: 786 tons, 7,3 %
- Weapons: 7 tons, 0,1 %
Armour: 2 792 tons, 26,1 %
- Belts: 1 109 tons, 10,4 %
- Armament: 679 tons, 6,3 %
- Armour Deck: 630 tons, 5,9 %
- Conning Towers: 373 tons, 3,5 %
Machinery: 2 420 tons, 22,6 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 3 334 tons, 31,1 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1 215 tons, 11,4 %
Miscellaneous weights: 150 tons, 1,4 %
- Hull below water: 25 tons
- Hull void weights: 25 tons
- Hull above water: 25 tons
- On freeboard deck: 50 tons
- Above deck: 25 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
11 446 lbs / 5 192 Kg = 40,5 x 8,3 " / 210 mm shells or 2,6 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,31
Metacentric height 5,0 ft / 1,5 m
Roll period: 13,6 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 54 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,29
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,08

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has rise forward of midbreak,
a ram bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,574 / 0,580
Length to Beam Ratio: 6,36 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 21,43 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 56 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -5,00 degrees
Stern overhang: 6,56 ft / 2,00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 20,00 %, 26,25 ft / 8,00 m, 24,61 ft / 7,50 m
- Forward deck: 10,00 %, 24,61 ft / 7,50 m, 24,61 ft / 7,50 m
- Aft deck: 55,00 %, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m
- Quarter deck: 15,00 %, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m
- Average freeboard: 16,70 ft / 5,09 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 101,6 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 127,8 %
Waterplane Area: 23 664 Square feet or 2 198 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 100 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 115 lbs/sq ft or 559 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0,95
- Longitudinal: 1,53
- Overall: 1,00
Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Excellent accommodation and workspace room

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Post subject: Re: Imperial Swedish NavyPosted: December 14th, 2014, 12:35 pm
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Looks good!


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Post subject: Re: Imperial Swedish NavyPosted: December 15th, 2014, 10:34 am
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Hi Psilander,

Looks great, but I have a query - from the SS data, 755mm armour on the rear conning tower? That's about four times more armour than you are shipping on the forward conning tower...

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Post subject: Re: Imperial Swedish NavyPosted: December 16th, 2014, 5:50 pm
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Impressive looking. Great to see Your new works.


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Post subject: Re: Imperial Swedish NavyPosted: January 28th, 2015, 9:55 pm
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The final version of the HSwMS Uppland, Heavy cruiser

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Sweden, Heavy Cruiser Uppland (Öland) - 1938
(planned; Halland, Småland, Östergötland & Gästrikland - halted 1942, completed as CGL's Äran, Tapperheten, Manligheten & Wasa 1958-1962)

Displacement:
11 006 t light; 11 567 t standard; 12 500 t normal; 13 246 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(619,19 ft / 606,96 ft) x 72,18 ft x (21,33 / 22,22 ft)
(188,73 m / 185,00 m) x 22,00 m x (6,50 / 6,77 m)

Armament:
9 - 8,27" / 210 mm 45,0 cal guns - 284,98lbs / 129,26kg shells, 150 per gun
Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1937 Model
2 x 3-gun mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
1 x 3-gun mount on centreline, aft deck centre
14 - 4,13" / 105 mm 45,0 cal guns - 35,62lbs / 16,16kg shells, 300 per gun
Quick firing guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1937 Model
6 x 2 row twin mounts on sides, evenly spread
2 raised mounts
1 x 2 row twin mount on centreline forward
1 raised mount
24 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 60,0 cal guns - 2,14lbs / 0,97kg shells, 500 per gun
Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1936 Model
12 x Twin mounts on sides, evenly spread
12 raised mounts
Weight of broadside 3 115 lbs / 1 413 kg
Main Torpedoes
6 - 21,0" / 533 mm, 26,25 ft / 8,00 m torpedoes - 1,738 t each, 10,428 t total
In 2 sets of deck mounted side rotating tubes
Mines
2 - 661,39 lbs / 300,00 kg mines + 60 reloads - 18,306 t total
in Above water - Stern racks/rails

Aircraft: 1x Steam catapult and workshop, no hangar for 1x S 8 Scoutplane (Grumman J2F "Duck")

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 5,91" / 150 mm 393,70 ft / 120,00 m 10,20 ft / 3,11 m
Ends: 1,97" / 50 mm 196,85 ft / 60,00 m 10,20 ft / 3,11 m
16,40 ft / 5,00 m Unarmoured ends
Upper: 1,97" / 50 mm 393,70 ft / 120,00 m 8,01 ft / 2,44 m
Main Belt covers 100 % of normal length

- Hull void:
0,00" / 0 mm 0,00 ft / 0,00 m 0,00 ft / 0,00 m

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 3,94" / 100 mm 1,77" / 45 mm 1,77" / 45 mm
2nd: 1,77" / 45 mm 0,79" / 20 mm 0,79" / 20 mm
3rd: 0,20" / 5 mm - -

- Armoured deck - multiple decks:
For and Aft decks: 1,77" / 45 mm
Forecastle: 0,79" / 20 mm Quarter deck: 0,79" / 20 mm

- Conning towers: Forward 5,91" / 150 mm, Aft 5,91" / 150 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 2 shafts, 88 633 shp / 66 120 Kw = 32,00 kts
Range 7 500nm at 14,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 1 679 tons

Complement:
590 - 768

Cost:
£5,574 million / $22,297 million

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Post subject: Re: Imperial Swedish NavyPosted: January 29th, 2015, 7:50 pm
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Looks stunning! Great to see new additions to this thread. :)


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Post subject: Re: Imperial Swedish NavyPosted: January 29th, 2015, 8:39 pm
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I like it, looking forward to the CGL's Äran.

Regarding the stats,
1) Does swapping the 105 to DP rather than QF raise the weight ? (assuming they are DP ?)
2) Could you store a spare 'Duck' forward of the crane ?
3) Armoured deck - multiple decks. is it worth spiting 45mm into 2 or more ? (how thick is your standard weather deck ?)

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Post subject: Re: Imperial Swedish NavyPosted: February 1st, 2015, 3:42 pm
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Regarding the stats,
1) Does swapping the 105 to DP rather than QF raise the weight ? (assuming they are DP ?)
Well, yes, they are high angle able fire AA fire, it doesen't make a diffrence in spreadsheet but I wasn't sure if the term DP was invented back in 38.
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2) Could you store a spare 'Duck' forward of the crane ?
Yes, I beleive you could fit one instead of the large barge.
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3) Armoured deck - multiple decks. is it worth spiting 45mm into 2 or more ? (how thick is your standard weather deck ?)
I put it in as default, so the SS just gave that value

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Post subject: Re: Imperial Swedish NavyPosted: April 7th, 2015, 7:43 pm
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Guided missile cruiser laid down 1939 (1960)

Äran (Glory)
Tapperheten (Couragous)
Manligheten (Masculinity)
Dristigheten (Audacity)


Displacement:
11 006 t light; 11 567 t standard; 12 500 t normal; 13 246 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(619,19 ft / 606,96 ft) x 72,18 ft x (21,33 / 22,22 ft)
(188,73 m / 185,00 m) x 22,00 m x (6,50 / 6,77 m)

Armament:
4 - 5,98" / 152 mm guns (2x2 guns), 107,15lbs / 48,60kg shells, 1950 Model
Automatic rapid fire guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on centreline ends, all forward
10 - 2,24" / 57,0 mm guns (5x2 guns), 5,65lbs / 2,56kg shells, 1950 Model
Automatic rapid fire guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on side, all amidshipd

Missiles
2x1 RIM-2 Terrier with PE-55 (SPG-55) 32 missiles
1x2 RIM-24 Tartar with PE-51 (SPG-51) 16+16 missiles
2x1 RBS 08A SSM, radar homeing, internal guidence, 12 missiles

Weight of broadside 489 lbs / 222 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 400
4 - 15,7" / 400 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 2,95" / 75 mm 328,08 ft / 100,00 m 9,22 ft / 2,81 m
Ends: 0,39" / 10 mm 65,62 ft / 20,00 m 9,22 ft / 2,81 m
213,25 ft / 65,00 m Unarmoured ends
Upper: 0,39" / 10 mm 362,53 ft / 110,50 m 8,01 ft / 2,44 m
Main Belt covers 83 % of normal length

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 1,97" / 50 mm 1,18" / 30 mm 1,97" / 50 mm
2nd: 0,98" / 25 mm 0,39" / 10 mm 0,98" / 25 mm
3rd: 0,20" / 5 mm 0,08" / 2 mm 0,20" / 5 mm

- Armour deck: 1,18" / 30 mm, Conning tower: 1,97" / 50 mm

Sensors
LW-02/ PS-47, S-band, longe range air/ surface search radar
SPS-39/52/ PS-52 3D search radar
Saturn CSF/PS-041 C-band air/ surface search,,
UUA-3/ PQ800 ESM

PN-20 X-band navigational radar


Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
geared drive, 2 shafts, 67 604 shp / 50 432 Kw = 33,00 kts
Range 6 000nm at 16,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 1 173 tons

Complement:
446 - 580

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Post subject: Re: Imperial Swedish NavyPosted: April 8th, 2015, 7:34 am
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Wow, that's an impressive missile cruiser. It's been great watching this come together.

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