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Hood
Post subject: Re: SB Lighter Than AirPosted: March 15th, 2015, 10:04 am
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Very impressive work and nicely drawn.

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Post subject: Re: SB Lighter Than AirPosted: March 15th, 2015, 1:42 pm
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CraigH wrote:
Did a bit of searching and not sure these have been done yet. Please correct me if I'm wrong
http://www.lzdream.net/dirigeables/zepp ... ppelin.jpg
http://www.lzdream.net/dirigeables/zepp ... 100565.jpg
http://www2.wbs.ne.jp/~s-c/airships/scan_917m_q.gif
http://www2.wbs.ne.jp/~s-c/airships/scan_917r_x.gif
R class
http://lzdream.net/dirigeables/zeppelin/type/r/r.jpg
S class (L42)
http://lzdream.net/dirigeables/zeppelin/type/s/s.gif
V class (L53)
http://lzdream.net/dirigeables/zeppelin/type/t/t.gif
L70-X class
http://lzdream.net/dirigeables/zeppelin/type/x/x.gif

more here (in French)


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CraigH
Post subject: Re: SB Lighter Than AirPosted: March 15th, 2015, 4:05 pm
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Here are (hopefully) all the Balloons, Blimps, and Zeppelins done for SB to date. These are filed under Real Designs or in threads as noted.

Germany:

L-57 Class (L-59) (Midnightnova)
http://shipbucket.com/images.php?dir=Re ... 20L-59.png

Great Britain:
ZN SS Class Blimp (Darth Panda)
http://shipbucket.com/images.php?dir=Re ... N%20SS.png
ZN SSP Class Blimp (Darth Panda)
http://shipbucket.com/images.php?dir=Re ... %20SSP.png
HMA Naval Airship 1 (Bombhead)
http://shipbucket.com/images.php?dir=Re ... No%201.png

My version of HMA-1 (Mayfly) can be seen here:
viewtopic.php?f=12&t=4750

HMA R 23 Class (Bombhead)
http://shipbucket.com/images.php?dir=Re ... 0class.png
ZR R100 (1930) (Bombhead)
http://shipbucket.com/images.php?dir=Re ... 20R100.png
ZR R101 (1930) (Bombhead)
http://shipbucket.com/images.php?dir=Re ... 20R101.png

Italy:
N Class (N-2) (Laser_one)
http://shipbucket.com/images.php?dir=Re ... R%20N2.png
N Class (N-4, Italia) (Laser_one)
http://shipbucket.com/images.php?dir=Re ... Italia.png

Japan:
N Class (N-3) (Laser_one)
http://shipbucket.com/images.php?dir=Re ... R%20N3.png

Norway:
N Class (N-1, Norge) (Laser_one)
http://shipbucket.com/images.php?dir=Re ... 0Norge.png

Russia:
V6 Osoaviakhlm (Laser_one)
http://shipbucket.com/images.php?dir=Re ... IAKhIM.png

USA:
K Class, K-17 (1943) (Colosseum)
http://shipbucket.com/images.php?dir=Re ... 201943.png
K Class, K-120 (1945) (Colosseum)
http://shipbucket.com/images.php?dir=Re ... 201945.png
K Class, K-125 (1945) (Colosseum)
http://shipbucket.com/images.php?dir=Re ... 201945.png
K Class, ZP3K/ZSG-3 Type, ZP3K-88 (1951) (Colosseum)
http://shipbucket.com/images.php?dir=Re ... 201951.png
K Class, ZP4K/ZSG-4 Type, ZP4K-11 (1955) (Colosseum)
http://shipbucket.com/images.php?dir=Re ... 201955.png
K Class, ZP5K/ZS2G-1 Type, ZP5K-12 (1957) (Colosseum)
http://shipbucket.com/images.php?dir=Re ... 201957.png
N Class, ZP2N-1/ZP-2 Type, ZP2(5)(1956) (Colosseum)
http://shipbucket.com/images.php?dir=Re ... 201956.png
N Class, ZP2N-1W/ZPG-2W Type, ZPG2(4)(1957) (Colosseum)
http://shipbucket.com/images.php?dir=Re ... 201956.png
N Class, ZPG-3W/EZ-1C Type, ZPG-3W(3)(1960) (Colosseum)
http://shipbucket.com/images.php?dir=Re ... 201960.png

Surprisingly the following aren’t in the Archive.
See the following post for the Hindenburg and Graf Zeppelin 2 (never launched) (by CanisD):
http://www.shipbucket.com/forums/viewto ... 10&start=0

There are a couple threads with observation blimps in conjunction with ships, here is an example…scroll down the HMS Furious (1918) (there are others):
http://www.shipbucket.com/forums/viewto ... =12&t=3682

I’ve not dug through SB aircraft or FD Aircraft, or Vehicles (balloons coupled to vehicles).

Regarding my German P-Class Zeppelin drawing: I did not include the tail rigging as I simply couldn't locate enough accurate detail to justify any line-work. The rest of the ship was harvested from 1st class research (ditto on the R-Class).

I ran into a thread regarding color of the ships, there's not much out there BUT:

1) Originally the earliest ridged airships were covered with un-doped fabric so...light creamy tans. Sometime just before WW 1 they realized that rain, fog, and dew absorbed into the fabric, added weight, and really screwed with the lifting capacity of the ships.

1a) The earliest balloons and airships are all over the map with color! Go nuts, use period colored promotional images and have fun.

Don't bother with trying to color interpret gray-scale period images. It's a waste of time (see:http://www.pacificng.com/template.php?p ... /index.php for info on period color interpretation. My site, I've been in the period color interpretation game for a long, long time).


2) They added dope (varnishes) which somewhat darkened the tans.

3) During WW 1 Britain, France, and Germany began playing with camo. Things get real foggy here. Surviving German Zeppelin fabric is gray is SB Scale. In actuality it is tan fabric with closely spaced thin blue/gray strips. So, early German wartime ships can be doped linen, gray, or even tan with dark splotches or gray with dark splotches. It's anyone's guess on the dark color.

4) The late war German Height Climbers and Naval ships look like they may be black overall (lower side) with gray tops (maybe even tan).

5) Doped silver shows up post WW 1. The first silver ship was ZR-3 USS Los Angeles (German built LZ-126) launched in 1924.

Regarding SB Standards and graded shading. I specifically chose to go with a few extra shades of tan as ridged airships panels were flat segments filling in a large cylindrical object. Keeping within the current new standard did help a lot!

A very humble "Thank You" for the complements Gents!
CraigH

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Post subject: Re: SB Lighter Than AirPosted: March 15th, 2015, 5:10 pm
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Great drawings of a fascinating subject CraigH keep it up! (get it "keep it up" because they're lighter than air LOL.............I'll let myself out)


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Post subject: Re: SB Lighter Than AirPosted: March 15th, 2015, 9:08 pm
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A Masterpiece Craig.

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Post subject: Re: SB Lighter Than AirPosted: March 16th, 2015, 5:06 am
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WOW, ЕXCELLENT WORK!


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Post subject: Re: SB Lighter Than AirPosted: March 17th, 2015, 1:23 pm
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Germany, P-Class Zeppelin LZ 41 (L 11)

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Great Britain, HMA-1 "Mayfly" (1911)

Bombhead's version is in the archive. My first Airship was done some months ago before I realized he had done it. This is a revised version of my interpretation (couldn't resist).

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Post subject: Re: SB Lighter Than AirPosted: March 17th, 2015, 4:49 pm
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An airship in camouflage...awesome!

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Post subject: Re: SB Lighter Than AirPosted: March 17th, 2015, 7:34 pm
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Fantastic! Keep it up! :D


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Post subject: Re: SB Lighter Than AirPosted: March 18th, 2015, 10:53 am
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Superb work!

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