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5 December 2014 is a good day of all Thai Peoples, i'd like to start Royal Thai Navy Project. i will do with many vessels including Siamese Navy and the other divisions. the oldest ships will come back to 1861 (if i can) and newest is 2018. i think i will use a few years to close this job, sometimes i will escape this topic because i have no idea. OK i'm ready now let's go



History of The Royal Thai Navy

During the reign of King Rama IV, the navy was located in two areas: the Wang Na Navy, under the command of King Pinklao, and the marines for the warships under the command of Somdej Phraya Borommaha Sri Suriyawong (Chuang Bunnag) then the Samuha Kalahom (Defence Minister). At the start of King Rama V's reign, the system of administration was Jatusadom or the division into four ministries (Interior, Royal Household, Finance, Agriculture), with the Defence minister commanding the military. At that time, the navy was divided into 2 major sections: the first was under the defence minister called "the Royal Palace Navy" or "Orasumpol Navy", and the other was under the command of Krom Phra Rajawang Bovorn Sathan Mongkol, named "Phra Racha Wang Bavorn Navy" or "Wang Na Navy". The Orasumpol Department comprised three main units: the steam ships department, the Mon volunteer department and the Cham volunteer department. The Wang Na Navy had several units under its command: the steam ships department, Cham volunteer department and sea department, also known as sailors department.

In 1885, when Krom Phra Rajawang Bovorn Sathan Mongkol (Krom Phra Rajawang Bovornvijaya Jam) passed away, the Wang Na forces, both army and navy were disbanded. There remained then two major navy forces: Krom Saeng Navy and Orasumpol Navy. Later, King Chulalongkorn appointed H.R.H. Crown Prince Maha Vajirunhis Commander-in-Chief and set up a military system on 8 April 1887 by establishing a War and Marine Department (Krom Yuthanathikarn). In this royal decree, the army and navy were both placed under the command of the Crown Prince. Because the Prince was still a junior, the King made H.H. Prince Bhanubandhuwongse Voradej acting Commander-in-Chief and General Supervisor. As for the Navy, the king appointed Vice Admiral H.H. Prince Saisanidwongse Secretary to the Navy with the following duties :

1. To manage all issues related to naval rules and regulations
2. To manage all issues related to troops and personnel
3. To manage all issues related to Naval Training
4. To manage all issues related to His Majesty's Ships
5. To manage all issues related to naval transport

Later in 1890, the 1887 royal decree was revoked and a decree to establish and manage the Department of War and Marine was issued on 1 April 1890. In the new decree, the name of the department was changed to "Ministry of War and Marine" with the duties of commanding navy and army personnel. The new decree also revoked the position of General Commander and set up the position of Field Marshal or "Commander-in-Chief with absolute control of army and navy forces. According to traditions, the King would hold this position and the Crown Prince would also take up duties. Two units were under direct command: Army Department and Navy Department. The first Chief Staff of the Navy was H.H. Prince Khachorn Charaswongse (Krom Muen Prab Porapaksha).

Organisation of the Navy Department 1890

1. Central Department
- Victualling Purchasing
- Accountant
- Recruiting
- Navy prison
- Dockyard
- Engineering
- Medical
- Navy School
2. His Majesty's Ships and Royal Ships
3. Forts
4. Coastguards

In 1892, new administrative restructuring was effected superseding the previous four-ministries system (Interior, Royal Household, Finance, Agriculture). A system of 12 ministries was enforced with the Interior Ministry assuming responsibilities for various cities around the kingdom. The Ministry of Defence was no longer responsible for state administration, but only military affairs. Thus in 1892, the Navy Department was placed under the command of Ministry of Defence rather than the Ministry of War and Marines. (With the Ministry of War and Marines looking after only the army). Later, on 11 December 1910, King Mongkut upgraded the Navy Department to the Ministry of Navy and on the same day appointed a Minister of the Navy (senabodi). The Ministerial meeting passed a resolution to establish a Defence Council to coordinated the efforts of the army and navy in defence of the country.

The Chief of Staff of the Army was also appointed by the King to be Permanent Secretary and Minister of Defence. The Minister of Navy and other high ranking officers both in service and retired were appointed members of the Council.

Since the Navy Department has been made into a Ministry of Navy, the administrative system was continually updated. However, no major changes were made to the infrastructure but some sections were upgraded to division or departments as required.

During the reign of King Prachadhipok or Rama VII, the world faced an economic recession and Thailand, without exception, was severely affected. The finance and economy of Thailand was in such a low state that country spendings were reduced and offices reorganised. On 8 November 1931, the King ordered the organisation of the Navy and Army into one unit under the name of the Ministry of Defence.

In 1932, the country's administration changed from Absolute Monarchy to Constitutional Monarchy. The Ministry of the Navy was downsized to a Navy Department. During these crucial times, a Central Ministry of Defence committee was organised. Some of the navy sections which were transferred to army command were placed back under navy command and all navy departments were downgraded to divisions except for the Chief of Staff Department. On 30 November 1933, the King issued a decree to change the name of the Navy Department to "The Royal Thai Navy" to conform with "The Royal' Thai Army" and placed it under the direct command of the Ministry of Defence.

In 1906, King Rama V granted the use of King Taksin:s palace to the Royal Thai Navy for construction of the Naval Academy. His Majesty presided over the inauguration of the Naval Academy on 20 November 1906 and signed the guest book as follows:



"On 20 November Rattanakosin Era 125, I, Chulalongkom Por Ror, presided over the opening ceremony of the school and am most pleased that navy affairs have taken roots and will flourish with great security far into the future. "

Thus the Royal Thai Navy designated 20 November of each year its Navy Day.

http://www.navy.mi.th/newwww/document/h ... ent1_3.php

This looks like it might be very good considering your usual high standards of ships, looking forward to it as its always nice to be able to read about ships as well as see them.

JSB

PC-461 Class Submarine Chaser

Specifications:
Type: Submarine chaser
Displacement: 280 tons
Full Displacement :
PC-1 to PC-3: 372 tons
PC-4 to PC-5: 480 tons
PC-6 to PC-8: 335 tons
Length: 173 ft 8 in (53 m)
Beam: 23 ft 0 in (7 m)
Draft: 6 ft 2.5 in (2 m)

Propulsion:
2 x 2,880 bhp diesel engines
2 x shafts
Speed: 20.2 knots
Complement: 65
Armament: Varies over time
Armor: Steel hull

Armament:
1 x 76/50 mm dual purpose gun
1 x Bofors 40/60 mm anti-aircraft gun
2 to 4 x Oerlikon 20mm cannon guns
2 x Mk20 Mousetrap ASW rocket launchers
2 x Mk-32 MOD 3 anti-submarine torpedo single tube: Only PC-4 to PC-8
4 x depth charge projectors
2 x depth charge racks

PC-1 HTMS Sarasin - ex PC-495 Transferred to Thailand in 1947 and Decommissioned 30 September 1992
PC-2 HTMS Thayanchon - ex PC-575 Transferred to Thailand in 1947 and Decommissioned 26 May 1982
PC-3 HTMS Khamronsin - ex PC-609 Transferred to Thailand in 1947 and Decommissioned 11 December 1953
PC-4 HTMS Phali - ex PC-1185 Transferred to Thailand in 1952 and Decommissioned 30 September 1992
PC-5 HTMS Sukiep - ex PC-1218 Transferred to Thailand in 1952 and Decommissioned 1 April 1994
PC-6 HTMS Tongpliu - ex PC-616 Transferred to Thailand in 1952 and Decommissioned 1 April 1994
PC-7 HTMS Liulom - ex PC-1253 Transferred to Thailand in 1952 and Decommissioned 1 April 1994
PC-8 HTMS Longlom - ex PC-570 Transferred to Thailand in 1953 and Decommissioned 2 February 1994

HTMS Sarasin in 1950





HTMS Sarasin in 1967, remove lifeboat and install 2 x Oerlikon 20mm cannon guns



HTMS Sarasin in 1992, about 198x Royal Thai Navy remove all ASW Weapons and install 1 to 2 x Oerlikon GAM-B01 20/85mm Naval Guns

this is going to be epic thread!

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Very nice work!

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It's going to be indeed an awesome thread.

Any chance for drawings of PC-461's of other users?

And the PC-461 has been redrawn as well.
A great start!

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This is going to be an awesome thread.
I think its great how you post the reference photo too, not only does it reveal how accurate the drawing is but it gives us some context too.

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This is already looking good

PC-6 HTMS Tongpliu (ex PC 616) transferred to Thailand in 1952, and refit + install 2 x single tube torpedo launcher at Guam in 1963 (PC-4 to PC-6 have SQS 17B hull-mounted sonar)



In 198X all PC-461 class were converted to patrol gunboats, by remove all ASW weapons + sensors and install 1 to 2 Oerlikon GAM-B01 20/85mm naval guns





This is a best picture in 7 june 1953, PC-8 HTMS Longlom (or ex PC 570) and two of four Matchanu-class submarines (my difficult homework)



I'm modify all guns like HTMS Tongpliu picture but don't know these are looking good or not. is a gun barrel of oerlikon 20mm front view and look up very high or ok?