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Post subject: Re: Hellenian KingdomPosted: October 17th, 2014, 2:54 pm
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Underwater hul and foils are similar with those of larger hydrofoil M300 from the photo above. But what about directors and electronics?


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Post subject: Re: Hellenian KingdomPosted: October 26th, 2014, 8:46 am
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Some more vehicles in FD scale, in use mostly with Security Forces:

From 1961 to 1986 Tangalakis Coachbuilder Factory assemblied under lisence several International Haverster vessels, among them SUV, pick up, lorries, even buldozers and other construction machinery for Armed Forces/Security Forces and civilian market. Also buses were build on International chassis both from Tangalakis and other coachbuilders, but were fairly rare in roads even then. Another brach of that factory was of manufacturing fire engines, known as Temat. Latter built on International Pick Up 1010 series chassis fire and rescue engines for airports -both civilian and military- plus wildfire fire engines. Some of all these received a major rebuilt in early 1990's and are still in service mostly in islandic airports and in private Air Clubs. Finally, Hellenic Voluntary Rescue Service received several SUV and rescue vehicles from other services after their withdrawn.

Lorries built were Loadstar, Cargostar and Transtar all powered by Detroit Diesel engines-again fairly rare compared with European lorries on roads. On Loadstar and Cargostar chassis road/runaway sweepers were built from another factory-of which about half are still in service.

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Note 1: I am not sure about the exact length of International 1310 Airport Support-the 1010 series was built on many variants with different wheelbases-but capacities are from a book with all real Hellenic Fire Brigade vehicles I borrowed from a friend who is a fireman and scanned.
Note 2: The only real vehicles in this template are the Fire Brigade Scout II and the 1310 Airpoprt support-rest are AU.


In page 47 a company named Alta was mentioned as an ATV manufacturer.

Another design from this company is the 600-850 series. Look in FD-Scale Hellenic Kingdom.


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Post subject: Re: Hellenian KingdomPosted: October 26th, 2014, 10:31 am
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Very nice.


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Post subject: Re: Hellenian KingdomPosted: October 28th, 2014, 5:36 pm
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The Royal Yacht with name and underwater hull (borrowed and modified from MS Lofoten):

Official name is simply RYH Nereid (Β/Θ Νηρηίς-Βασιλική Θαλαμηγός)-Royal Yacht of Hellas. Οwned by the King but maintained and manned by Hellenic Merchant Marine, funding comes for grants by rich Hellenes (the grant system is generally based on that of Ancient Athens, as I said before somewhere). Because of ice class, Nereid has cruised Antarctica in the past-a state visit with Minister of Enviroment aboard after Hellas signed the Antarctic Treaty, but generally sailing schedule is similar with that of HDMY Dannebrog and HNoMY Norge.
In 2002-2003 the ship docked for repair at the same shipyard in Salamis island were she was built in 1962. After the rebuilt, King Michael IX took over again Nereid with a higher standard of safety and better techical equipment, while engines also rebuilt. In 2013 a ceremony took place, as the Royal Yacht became 50 years old. Among other vessels of Hellenic Royal family are the Dragon Class sail boat with he won the gold medal in 1960 Olympic Games (as is real Hellas, current King won the Gold Medal at that category), two sailing vessels (one is a traditional wooden Aegean vessel 28m long and the other a classic wooden vessel of 1930's, 20m long).

Length : 98.2m
Beam : 13.9m
Draught : 6.7m
Propulsion : Twin Glavanis LD6 Diesel, each 1,850hp/300rpm on single screw
Speed : Max 18,5 kn/cruise 16 kn

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Post subject: Re: Hellenian KingdomPosted: October 29th, 2014, 8:20 am
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And an attempt for underwater hull/foils to my hydrofoil:

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Post subject: Re: Hellenian KingdomPosted: October 30th, 2014, 8:24 am
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Traditional wooden Aegean vessel:

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These (called "karaboskaro",καραβόσκαρο) are built in pine, length from 14-15m to 40m.


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Post subject: Re: Hellenian KingdomPosted: October 31st, 2014, 2:59 pm
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Hydrofoil seems quite efficient small combat vessel with this armament. I don't know how deep Aegean Sea is, but the draft might be a problem ;)


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Post subject: Re: Hellenian KingdomPosted: October 31st, 2014, 5:07 pm
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I estimate draft for this hydrofoil about the same with Italian Rodriguez Jumbo RHS 200, will de modified to about 4 m. An old Soviet Kometa hydrofoil has 3.4 m draft. During 1980' s several variants of this hydrofoil appeared, but some remain on paper ( or in the form of exchibition models)

Aegean is quite deep for a close sea, deeper average than Baltic.


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Post subject: Re: Hellenian KingdomPosted: October 31st, 2014, 8:11 pm
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Nice work with yacht and hydrofoil.
Maybe I'd just draw the contour of hull/wing break with darker shade, but that's merely a detail.


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Post subject: Re: Hellenian KingdomPosted: November 1st, 2014, 8:20 pm
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This patriculary blue traditional Aegaen sailing vessel is 28m long, has 6.7m beam and about 3.5m draught. With 400hp total (or 160-180hp slow revving semi-diesel in some old prewar examples) cruising speed is 9-10kn by engine and about 12-13kn under sails with good wind. In Hellenic Kingdom several shipyards still built wooden vessels on traditional lines (link below). Similar wooden vessels built also at the other side of Aegean, called Gullet.

Some models of traditional wooden hellenic vessels (the english page crashes, try to use google traslation with copy-paste, if you still have problems please pm me)

http://www.greekshipmodels.com/default. ... d=8&page=2


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