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Post subject: Thornycroft Seaplane CarrierPosted: February 13th, 2011, 10:53 pm
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This is a proposal for a fleet seaplane carrier for the Royal Navy designed by Thornycroft in 1924.
The plans I have show three AA guns two in the three inch range and one smaller one, unfortunately the resolution is too low to read it. So what armament would she have carried? Also, what was the RNs flying boat of choice at the time? The bluepring shows a largish biplane with a boathull and an open cockpit at the extreme front.

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Post subject: Re: Thornycroft Seaplane CarrierPosted: February 14th, 2011, 12:06 am
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For seaplanes
The best bet are ones from Supermarine like Supermarine Seagull
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or Supermarine Swan
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RN AA guns for the period are 12 pounder (3") or 4" AA and the smaller gun might be 40mm Pom-Pom in single mounting, a gun from around 1916.
I like the drawing, it is a good start, and I hope you have more ships from that source.

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Post subject: Re: Thornycroft Seaplane CarrierPosted: February 14th, 2011, 7:15 am
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Sadly no. At least not at the moment.
Anyway, I'll go with the Seagull. Has it been drawn before?

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Post subject: Re: Thornycroft Seaplane CarrierPosted: February 14th, 2011, 8:13 am
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Yes, I did one for HMAS Albatross, but you may want to improve it :)


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Post subject: Re: Thornycroft Seaplane CarrierPosted: February 14th, 2011, 9:12 am
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I'll take a look at it.
I got the source drawings from Nick Sumner from the Waships Projects 3.0 Discussion boards.
He'd found them in the Hiraga archives. They have plenty of of other good stuff there, unfortunately, the site is in japanese only and the search function isn't compatible with google translate.
Btw, has the 12 pounder and the single Pom-Pom been drawn?
Edit: Another thing, the bridge would most likely be made of wood so I'm wondering, what was the practise in the RN did they paint or varnish it?
I'm tempted to do the latter to give the ship a bit of texture.

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Post subject: Re: Thornycroft Seaplane CarrierPosted: February 14th, 2011, 2:48 pm
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British single 40mm Pom-Pom

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Post subject: Re: Thornycroft Seaplane CarrierPosted: February 14th, 2011, 3:58 pm
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Post subject: Re: Thornycroft Seaplane CarrierPosted: February 15th, 2011, 10:44 pm
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Update
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Having taken a closer look at the drawings, I've come to the conclusion that the AA would consists of two sing Pom-Poms only.
Credits for the Supermarine Seagull goes to PB.
The Jig Boom isn't actually on the drawing, but I've added it anyway since it would ease aircraft recovery considerably in calm weather and allow for three ready planes while at anchor.

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Post subject: Re: Thornycroft Seaplane CarrierPosted: February 15th, 2011, 10:52 pm
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It seems that the hull is too shallow, while the superstructure is too high. Also the bridge looks extremly small. As I haven't seen this before, my comments are only my views as regards to ships' design.
I like the drawing very much, but I think the aeroplanes (as the called them in those far off days), need a new color scheme, as I don't think the RN used brown on its seaplanes.

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Post subject: Re: Thornycroft Seaplane CarrierPosted: February 15th, 2011, 11:11 pm
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Turns out you're right. What I thought was a crease in the drawing turned out to be a waterline mark.
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Anyway, according to this picture RAF Seagulls were brown, and since, if memory serves, the FAA were under RAF control at the time it seems logical that their Seagulls should also be brown.
All the colour pictures I've seen of the Seagull shows it in brown, and the B/W pictures shows it as a dark colour of some sort.

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