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KIKE92
Post subject: Re: United States of VenezuelaPosted: August 28th, 2014, 3:58 pm
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KHT wrote:
A very pretty ship, I must say!
But... six inch guns should be three pixels thick. And the barrels are very long right now, if they're six-inchers.
The general scale is:
__-45 mm = 1 pixel
45-105 mm = 2 pixels
105-191 mm = 3 pixels
191- 254 mm= 4 pixels.
And so on. Above the calibers I've set it's fairly open for you to choose, but above 10" it should mostly be above five pixels thick(there may be exceptions).
Thanks for the information it is very useful, i just changed the size of the guns if you notice anything else let me know.

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Post subject: Re: United States of VenezuelaPosted: September 1st, 2014, 10:23 am
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Mèrida Class Aircraft Carrier

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After the cancellation of the last two Táchira battleships due to British and American pressure, the venezuelan navy was left with two semi completed hulls at the Puerto Cabello shipyards, after the cancellation they were towed to the nearby storage docks where they would remain until 1920 when it was decided by the Navy's high command that both ships would be finished not as battleships but as aircraft carriers. The new class was named Mérida and the first ship was ready by 1923 with the second following a year later becoming the Venezuelan Navy's first carriers.

Class overview:
Name: Mérida class aircraft carrier
Operators: Venezuelan Navy
Built: 1916–18 (as Táchira) 1921-24 (as carriers)
In service: 1925–45
Completed: 2

General characteristics:
Displacement: 36,500 tons (standard); 42,500 tons (laden)
Length: 234 m
Beam: 31.75 m
Draught: 9 m
Speed: 25 knots
Range: 7412km (4000nm) at 15 knots
Complement: 1,250
Armament:
4 × 5-inch
14 × 3.5-inch

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Post subject: Re: United States of VenezuelaPosted: September 1st, 2014, 10:35 am
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Looks very nice KIKE

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Post subject: Re: United States of VenezuelaPosted: September 1st, 2014, 10:43 am
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pegasus206 wrote:
Looks very nice KIKE
Thanks for the comment pegasus.

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Post subject: Re: United States of VenezuelaPosted: September 3rd, 2014, 11:20 am
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Cumaná Class Destroyer

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The Cumaná Class Destroyers were a class of Venezuelan Navy destroyers designed as an answer to the new japanese destroyers coming into service and also to fill the requeriments from the venezuelan navy for a new versatile destroyer that could serve as escort for the main strike forces and also serve as a submarine hunter. The key points for the new design were speed, firepower but also simple enough to be produced in large quantitys.

Class overview:
Name: Cumaná - class destroyer
Built: 1941 to 1945
In commission: 1942 to 1973
Completed: 72
Lost: 9


General characteristics:
Type: Destroyer
Displacement:
2,200 tons (standard)
2,700 tons (full load)
Length: 122.27 m
Beam: 13.0 m
Draft: 5.3 m
Propulsion: 65,000 shp ; 4 oil-fired boilers; 2 geared steam turbines; 2 screws
Speed: 37 knots
Range: 5,800 miles at 15 knots
Complement: 329
Armament:
5 × single 5 inch (127 mm)
10 × 21 inch (533 mm) torpedo tubes
2 × depth charge racks

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Post subject: Re: United States of VenezuelaPosted: September 3rd, 2014, 11:51 am
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Those turrets still seem pretty big for single 5s... You're also not going to get 10 torpedoes amidships like that, they're simply too wide. That said it's still a nice looking mega-destroyer

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KHT
Post subject: Re: United States of VenezuelaPosted: September 3rd, 2014, 12:14 pm
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Kike, I think you need to start measuring your gun barrels. A 5"/38 caliber gun barrel would be 32 pixels long in SB style. Right now, there is 34 pixels worth of length that sticks out outside the gun mount on those guns. Also, keep in mind that roughly 1/3-1/4 of the gun barrel was usually inside of the turret construction. As a result from this, your 5"/38 caliber guns currently look like they're roughly 60 calibers, something the bulkyness of your turrets support.
Look a bit on the size and shape of RL turrets. I like the aesthetics of yours, but while the shape of a 16" and an 8" turret might correspond closely(largely the case in the USN) to each other in appearance, once you go down to 5" and the like, it won't anymore, simple because it's such a small gun, and doesn't require such a massive mount and mount structure(especially if it's a single mount).
I generally like the appearance, though I agree with Blackbuck's points.


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Post subject: Re: United States of VenezuelaPosted: September 3rd, 2014, 12:36 pm
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I really thank you both for the advice, and following what you said i have made some changes to the ship and here it is.

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I would like to know what you think.

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Post subject: Re: United States of VenezuelaPosted: September 3rd, 2014, 9:39 pm
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Tridente Class Battleship

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Class overview:
Class & type: Tridente Class Battleship
Built: 1930–1937
In service: 1933–1965
Planned: 6
Completed: 6
Cancelled: 0
Lost: 0

General characteristics:
Displacement:
Standard: 26.500 t
Full load: 30.400 t
Length: 214.4 m
Beam: 28.03 m
Draft: 8.18 m
Propulsion:
4 Geared turbines
8 Yarrow boilers
100,200 shp
Speed: 30 knots (56 km/h)
Range: 4,580 nautical miles (8,480 km) at 16 knots (30 km/h; 18 mph)
Crew: 80 officers - 1,250 enlisted
Armament:
9 × 381 mm (15.0 in) guns
6 × 5 in guns
16 × 3.5 in guns

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Post subject: Re: United States of VenezuelaPosted: September 4th, 2014, 7:47 am
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Some very interesting designs.
The revised mounts on the destroyer look much better.

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