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I prefer not to give French aircraft to Turkey, something US is that we need. Exactly this Trojan said I had in my mind. In that scenario Turkey ordered bombers before HLK, at mid to late 1950's.

The F-100G was replaced by F-16A/HARM in mid 1980's and F-100C/D by Tornado IDS-T. THK (AU) received more that 300 F-100 from USA and Denmark. Some of THK Tornadoes were wired for HARM missiles.

P.S What about the F-105? If remember correctly, someone proposed this aircraft for RHAF. Of course, this would be an export downgraded variant.

And some of missiles in service with RHAF and RHN:



Iris-T has been also integrated to Rafale-EG, while a new anti-radiation missile is being developed on 530 frame, using a new two pulse rocket engine. RHAF Rafale are capable of firing Meteor missile (HLK entered the program in 2002, after several years of waiting).

E-105 missile is a helicopter or surface launched missile co-developed with Israel in 1990's. Equivalent with LAHAT, has also a variant for launch from tank cannons (105mm or 120mm).

All AIM-9 stock converted to Aris missiles (for ship or land launched) and old variants (B/D) to ASM-9 ARM, a small anti-radiation missile similar with US AGM-122 Sidearm. SGM bombs are equivalent with US JDAM.

Note that Martel, Kormoran, 530 and ASM-20 are already phased out, while AAM-80 is an AU missile based on MICA frame which entered service in 2012, both in Rafale and the last batch of Mirage 2000.

Other family of missiles (mostly reverse-engineered and modified) are the AAM-70A/B and SAM-26A/B/C. Both come from Sparrow, first was the back up project of Hellenic Kingdom for the AIM-120, equivalent with AIM-7R. Finally AIM-120B/C was purchased, but after the retirement of Phantom will be modified for surface use by a vastly improved Hawk (Hellenic Army Hawk are Phase III since mid 1990's. Sentinel radar and NASAMS software indegrated in early 2000's). All Sparrow stock are been modified to SAM-26 spec, which -B/C variant have thust vector rocket engine and improved indigenous seeker. These missiles are a cheap equivalent to ESSM and are in sevice with Cypriot Navy as well, giving it a limited area defense capability. -C2 variant has dual seeker, developed for use with Skyguard-M which protects all military airfields in HLK and Cyprus.

Gabriel IIIAS was intergated to some Cypriot R-57BC/CC (B/C variant, Cyprus) and in R-102MP of Cypriot Naval Aviation.

The famous "Magicwinder" missile was the first entry of Hellas (AU) to air-launched missiles in early 1980's. It was built on Sindewinder frame, had modified rocket engine and the seeker of Magic I, to provide a longer range missile to Mirage F1CG/EG. Although in theory range was 20km, was not very succesfull and Magic II was ordered instead. Experience led to SAM-8 Aris. Finally, another experimental hellenic missile was the AAM-25, the air-launched Aris. Same in appearence with ASM-9, was tested succesfully and entered service in limited numbers with F-104M mostly. Remaining stock modified to ASM-9.

Also AGM-88 HARM are now in reserve, after the retirement of RF-4E Phantom.

And the development of Adis I, step by step from original 1969 model to new Isis II supersonic variant:



-All SSM-34 variants differ in electronics and engine, which is a double pulse solid rocket engine based on Swedish Rb04. Gradually, the original MARAC M31 radar led to the M131, a Hellenic design different from Swedish designs. Phased out completely until 2006.
-SSM-85 variant has a new, single pulse solid rocket and twin external drop boosters and down graded M131 radar for export. This missile replaced the SSM-34, RHN variant (Isis I) is more advanced from export variant. Several SSM-85 are actually rebuilt SSM-34 frames. With speed 1.25 mach, SSM-85 was the first supersonic missile developed in HLK. Pakistan received also SSM-34C from RHN stock.

Hellenic Kingdom was also involved very early to French missile Exocet development and was the first nation to receive the MM-8 missile from 1971. Another nation which involved was Denton, but latter's involvement is still unknown. First RHN ships armed with MM38 was the missile boat HSY-50E (E for Exocet, the HSY-50A had Adis I) and in mid 1970's the Combattante IIIA. From 1980 HLK revealed the first of a series of missiles using the Exocet frame, called SSM-50A Adis II. This was an MM38 with external booster and a larger sustainer, achieving 50km range (early MM38 had 35km range). During late 1970's, a small turbojet for missiles was developed from University of Athens (Engineering Degree) and Aerodyne, the J09-AD-66, equivalent with US Teledyne J402 (see Harpoon missile). The new engine tested on a modified SSM-50A, called SSM-50B, increasing range to 92km officially (actual range was 80-85km). Later in 1990's the SSM-50B was renamed SSM-65A. Having access to all Exocet designs, technicians conbined the SSM-50A frame with the MM39 (early design with folding fins which led to MM40) and created the SSM-65B missile with about 100km range officially to equip the new Elli Class frigates from 1982. Later -C variant had official range 120km, but in reality both -B and -C variants had ranges 120 and 140km. The final SSM-65 variant, the -D, appeared in 1994 and had better resistance to ECM and newer electronics. Older variants were retrofitted in -D spec.

Note that the agreement with Aerospatiale and Ordtech Group for Exocet missiles license production was to prevent any export sales of hellenic built Exocets for 30 years. Agreement expired in 1998, but HLK did not export much quantity of Adis II missiles (only Argentina, Ecuador and Pakistan received Adis II-the customers of Messimvria/Conon Mk3 frigates).

Another variant of Adis II was the surface-to-underwater missile Triton, which officialy claimed as rocket for political reasons, carrying the designation SUR-18A, number was range in km. The ASW weapon Triton revealed in 1986 Defensys Exhibition (AU) and intergated to Salamis Mk2 frigates of RHN, being an Exocet MM39 with a torpedo as warhead and some electronics from the missile, was a first for NATO. Official export of Triton had to wait until 2010 with Ecuadorian Navy the first customer. There are rumors that Cyprus had Triton since 1989 (the unusual "twin triple" Exocet launchers of their Kyrenia and Conon Mk2A frigates were the evidence). Curiously, Marine Nationale did not bite on Triton, although French Navy high rank officers were present on board F457 Kasos during in a test launch of Triton in 1990. Latest variant of Triton is the SUM-30 Triton VL for new DDG Als150 (Kimon II), entering service in 2012. The -B variant of initial Triton with 24km range appeared in 2000, featured mid-course targeting from P-3 Orion and P6M Seamaster as well from helicopters (-A variant had mid-course targeting only from helicopters).

The larger patrol vessels of Hellenic Coast Guard (AU):

Seen in new thread.

For polar exploration ship and polar research insitute see page 68.

Nice Coast Guard flotilla.
As for the polar programs I guess that Hellenian Kingdom may of course undertake such venture - significant number of nations without direct access to polar areas have some polar research programs (including Poland, for example), although their scope and scale of technical involvement (like use of specialised air transport) are usually very limited.

About Coast Guard, I have more to post, these are the larger vessels. Except the 420 Class, other involved in Atalanta missions off Somalia in circular change. Medium sized OPV are the Saar Class, the Vosper 47m and the HSY-32. Then we have lifeboats, coastal patrol boats, special operations/anti smuggling and anti pollution vessels.

Any suggestions and ideas for polar ship? (links please, since the question is inside a thread))

Edited in page 47 the enegy system of Hellenic Kingdom concerning installed power for producing electricity.

Renewable sources percentage may seem large, but because of the random nature of sun and wind their actual energy production is much smaller. Most reliable green energy sources are geothermal and tidal energy, following by hydroelectric, sun and last wind. Biomass is different story.

In Hellas there is only one point where tidal power can produce electricity ( which it is I leave it to you guess where).

Also use of geothermal heating ( greenhouses, heat pumps etc) is increasing, together with solar heating and cooling. Mineral water spa were the first use of geothemal enegy in the Kingdom, dated from 1891. Use of geothermal energy for producing electricity had to wait for almost 90 years, when the first experimental plant of Hellenic State Electric Company was installed in island of Milos in 1980. As it was very succesful, HSEC built several new plants increasing the installed geothermal power to 400 MW. And this is less than half of potencial, with the rest passed to private hands for development.

Renewable sources by type

Concetraded Solar Thermal plants : 29.6%
Photovoltaic Systems : 26.7%
Wind Energy : 20.33%
Tidal Energy : 19.07%
Geothermal Energy : 3,61%

If several members are interested, I can explain how this nation managed to keep electricity bills lower compared with other European countries with large percetage of REW into their energy system. Of course, this would be a thought of me, because I have a degree on Energy Engineering, however I am not sure if it is plausible in reality.

Hi odysseus1980,

A quick check, wouldn't greenhouses count as solar!geothermal? I'd thought the energy input in greenhouses would be sunlight heating contents of greenhouse...

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No, beacause greenhouses do not produce electricity. Wikipedia has very good information on energy, just search for every energy source, copy-pasted it from here.