Moderator: Community Manager
[Post Reply] [*]  Page 3 of 9  [ 82 posts ]  Go to page « 1 2 3 4 59 »
Author Message
shippy2013
Post subject: Re: Commonwealth of New Cromer AUPosted: May 27th, 2014, 2:52 pm
Offline
User avatar
Posts: 658
Joined: March 26th, 2013, 7:44 pm
Location: Nottingham. United Kingdom
[ img ]

The Future of New Cromers Navy

Ships currently in the process of commissioning or Construction/Design.

OPV
Based on the BAe Corvette design these 4 ships are due to replace the Type12L Leander's in late 2014 early 2015, armed with a 76mm gun, 2x 20mm guns, 2 twin Harpoon launchers (these are to be replaced at some point by Boxed launchers for an Anti Ship Scalp Naval missile) and 2 2x4 A43 Sylver launcher for 16 CAMM quad pack missiles (total 64 missiles). they have the ability to operate a Lynx helicopter with a retractable cover to allow light maintenance or temporary hangarage and 2x RIBs. primarily they will be used for anti piracy and smuggling but have the heavier armament for doing other more demanding tasks if needed making them adaptable to future duties also although not initially fitted a mount is provided a top the bridge for a single Phalanx CIWS system.

EDIT; A further 6 Batch 2 vessels were ordered in 2014 and will commission from 2017, these will be equipped with the US Mk38 instead of the 76mm, they will still have the CAMM installation but will be fitted for but not with for now the 2x twin Harpoon launchers or Boxed Scalp Naval Launchers (NCNS Helene, Pandora and Telesto will be fitted and assigned to the Gulf Squadron). They will primarily be used as large patrol corvettes. They will be tasked with duties in the ever destabilising Middle East and for Anti Piracy, Drug Enforcement, Anti People trafficking and illegal immigration.
[ img ]
[ img ]
General Statistics
Class: Neptune
Type: Corvette
No Planned: 10.
No Built: 4.
No Building: 6.
Names: NCNS Tritan (Early 2014), NCNS Psamathe (Early 2014), NCNS Neso (Late 2014), NCNS Halimede (Late 2014), NCNS Helene, NCNS Pandora, NCNS Telesto, NCNS Narvi, NSNC Pan and NCNS Pallene.
Builder; Bae Systems New Cromer.
Laid Down; First May 2014.
Launched; First Planned September 2014.
Commissioned; First Planned February 2015.
Home Port; Victoria Naval Station
Pennant Numbers; TBA
Displacement: 2,200 tonnes
Length: 89.9 m (295 ft.) LWL, 95 m (312 ft.) LOA
Beam: 12.8 m (42 ft.)
Draught: 3.6 m (12 ft.)
Propulsion: 4 x MAN B&W / Ruston diesel engine (total of 30.2 MW) 2 x shafts
Speed: 30 knots (56 km/h)
Range: 5,000 nautical miles (9,000 km) at 12 knots (22 km/h)
Complement: 79 (room for an additional 24)
Sensors and processing systems: ARTISAN 3D medium range Surveillance Radar (type 997), Sea Archer 30 fire controller/director, Thales Underwater Systems TMS 4130C1 hull-mounted sonar, BAE Insyte 1802SW I/J-band radar trackers, Kelvin Hughes Type 1007 navigation radar, Thales Nederland Scout radar for surface search, Thales Sensors Cutlass 242 countermeasures.[2]
Armament: 1 x Oto Melara 76mm, 2 x DS 30B REMSIG 30mm guns 16 Cells A43 VLS for CAMM quad pack surface-to-air missile launcher, 2 x 2 Harpoon AshM missile launchers (Not on Narvi, Pan and Pallene), 2 x triple BAE Systems 324mm torpedo tubes.
Aircraft carried: 1 × Lynx Wildcat, armed with 4 × anti-ship missiles, or 2 × anti-submarine torpedoes
Aviation facilities: Flight deck, retractable cover for tempory hangarage


Destroyers
New Cromer's Type 42 Destroyers are getting to the end of there usable lives and are extremely heavily worked. in 2000 plans for 6 New large Air Defence Destroyers were began, working closely with the UK New Cromer looked at the Type 45 and designed a large Trimaran hulled Destroyer this was dubbed a Type 47 and had 80% parts commonality with Type 45 but more growth space and a bigger VLS Armed with 155mm Gun, 4x 30mm Guns, 2 Phalanx CIWS, 10 2x4 Sylver A70 Launchers for Aster 15, 30 and SCALP Naval missiles, A Starstreak launcher is temporarily fitted until CAMM is available and space reserved aft of the mission bays either side of the hanger and in the forward VLS pit for 3 additional 2x4 A43 Sylver launchers the ships are fitted for but not with 2 quad Harpoon Launchers forward the bridge. the ability to operate and hangar two Merlin Helicopters and here flight deck is large enough for Chinook or CV-22 Osprey's and she has berthing for 100 marines, steel for the first ship was cut in 2008 but as the ship was being built costs were rising and by 2009 had risen by 66%. A decision was made in 2011 to cancel the 5 follow on ships and instead 4 straight Type 45's were ordered. NCNS Diligent is therefore one of a kind but her larger size and additional internal space make her an effective flag ship with facilities fitted to do the job, when she commissions in mid 2014 she will become the Fleet Admirals Flag Ship. her saving grace being her 80% parts commonality with the Type 45's.
[ img ]
General Statistics
Class: Type 47 Diligent
Type; Air Defence Destroyer Type 47
No Planned: 5.
No Built: 1.
No Cancelled: 4.
Names: NCNS Diligent (2013)
Builder; Bae Systems New Cromer.
Laid Down; October 2008.
Launched; June 2011
Commissioned; May 2013.
Home Port; Cromer Naval Station.
Pennant Numbers; TBA
Displacement; 9,300 Tonnes
Length; 166.4m
Beam; 34.8m (Deck)
Draught; 7.4m
Propulsion; 2 shafts integrated electric propulsion (IEP): 2 x Rolls Royce WR-21 Gas Turbines, 21.5MW (28,800shp) each, 2x Warsilla 12v200 diesel generators, 2MW (2,700shp) each, 2 x Converteam electric motors, 20MW (27,000shp) each.
Speed; over 30 knots
Range; 7000+ Nautical miles (without RAS)
Compliment; 208 (up to 405 with embarked marine unit)
Sensors and processing systems; SAMPSON multi-function air tracking radar (Type 1045), S1850M 3-D air surveillance radar (Type 1046), Raytheon Integrated Bridge and Navigation System, 2 × Raytheon AHRS INS (MINS 2), 2 × Raytheon I-band Radar (Type 1047), 1 × Raytheon E/F-band Radar (Type 1048), Ultra Electronics Series 2500 Electro-Optical Gun Control System (EOGCS), Ultra Electronics SML Technologies radar tracking system, Ultra Electronics/EDO MFS-7000 sonar
Electronic warfare & decoys: UAT Mod 2.0 (2.1 planned), AN/SSQ-130 Ship Signal Exploitation Equipment (SSEE) Increment F cryptologic exploitation system, Seagnat, Naval Decoy IDS300, Surface Ship Torpedo Defence.
Armament; Anti-air missiles: Sea Viper air defence system. 1 × 80-cell Sylver A70 VLS, for a combination of 80, Aster 15 missiles (range 1.7-30 km), Aster 30 missiles (range 3-120 km) and SCALP Naval Land Attack Missiles, Additional space for 3 8x2 A43 VLS Cells for CAMM Quad pack Missiles. Anti-ship missiles: fitted for but not with 2 × quad Harpoon launchers, Guns: 1 × BAE 155mm naval gun, 4 × Oerlikon 30 mm guns, 2 × Phalanx CIWS, 2 × Miniguns, 6 × General purpose machine guns
Aircraft; 1-4 × Lynx HMA8, armed with 4 × Sea Skua anti-ship missiles or 2 × anti-submarine torpedoes or 2 × Westland Merlin HAS, armed with 4 × anti-submarine torpedoes
Aviation facilities: Large flight deck, Enclosed hangar.

With the Cancelation of the Type 47, New Cromer reverted to the original Type 45 design, 4 ships were ordered and Built locally by BAe Systems New Cromer. built to the design of the UK's Type 45 but fitted with the 60 cell A70 system the UK ships were designed for but not equipped with. allowing the carriage of Aster 15, 30 and SCALP Naval, they also have 2 quad Harpoon launchers (these will be removed once an Anti Ship version of the Scalp Naval enters service), Phalanx, 30mm guns and the 4.5in Mod 1 gun and will be also tasked with ABM defence with New Cromer involved in the UK/US trials using the UK's HMS Daring. A fifth ship was added to the order in 2014 due to the ever rising commitments the Navy is having to fulfil both internationally and at home. the first ship NCNS Defiance was launched in 2014 and expected to commission in 2015 the remaining 4 will follow and should be ready by 2018.
[ img ]
General Statistics
Class: Type 45 Defiant
Type; Air Defence Destroyer.
No Planned: 6.
No Built: 2.
No Building: 4.
Names: NCNS Defiance (2014) , NCNS Danger (2014), NCNS Dreadful, NCNS Denial, NCNS Dormant
Builder; Bae Systems New Cromer.
Laid Down; From June 2011
Launched; First October 2013
Commissioned; First July 2014
Home Port(s); Cromer Naval Station and Victoria Naval Station.
Pennant Numbers; TBA
Displacement; 8,000 - 8,500 Tonnes
Length; 152.4m
Beam; 21.2m
Draught; 7.4m
Propulsion; 2 shafts integrated electric propulsion (IEP): 2 x Rolls Royce WR-21 Gas Turbines, 21.5MW (28,800shp) each, 2x Warsilla 12v200 diesel generators, 2MW (2,700shp) each, 2 x Converteam electric motors, 20MW (27,000shp) each.
Speed; over 30 knots
Range; 7000+ Nautical miles (without RAS)
Compliment; 191 (up to 235)
Sensors and processing systems; SAMPSON multi-function air tracking radar (Type 1045), S1850M 3-D air surveillance radar (Type 1046), Raytheon Integrated Bridge and Navigation System, 2 × Raytheon AHRS INS (MINS 2), 2 × Raytheon I-band Radar (Type 1047), 1 × Raytheon E/F-band Radar (Type 1048), Ultra Electronics Series 2500 Electro-Optical Gun Control System (EOGCS), Ultra Electronics SML Technologies radar tracking system, Ultra Electronics/EDO MFS-7000 sonar
Electronic warfare & decoys: UAT Mod 2.0 (2.1 planned), AN/SSQ-130 Ship Signal Exploitation Equipment (SSEE) Increment F cryptologic exploitation system, Seagnat, Naval Decoy IDS300, Surface Ship Torpedo Defence.
Armament; Anti-air missiles: Sea Viper air defence system. 1 × 48-cell Sylver A50 VLS, for a combination of 48, Aster 15 missiles (range 1.7-30 km), Aster 30 missiles (range 3-120 km), Land attack missiles; 12 single strike length VLS cells for SCALP Naval land attack missiles, Anti-ship missiles: 2 × quad Harpoon launchers, Guns: 1 × BAE 4.5 inch Mk 8 naval gun, 2 × Oerlikon 30 mm guns, 2 × Phalanx CIWS, 2 × Miniguns, 6 × General purpose machine guns
Aircraft; 1-2 × Lynx HMA8, armed with 4 × Sea Skua anti-ship missiles or 2 × anti-submarine torpedoes or 1 × Westland Merlin HAS, armed with 4 × anti-submarine torpedoes
Aviation facilities: Large flight deck, Enclosed hangar

Submarine's

With New Cromer Having such close ties to the UK, when New Cromer was looking for replacements for it's Churchill class SSN's it was only logical it would turn to the UK for answers. a deal was signed in 2012 for the purchase of 4 Astute class SSN's these will be built in the UK at Barrow in Furness and will follow the UK's boats into service the first expected in 2017 lead parts and components for the first two were officially ordered in 2013 and the orders for boats 3 and 4 were placed in early 2014. An option for a fifth is still pending a decision will be made in 2016. Armed with 6 21 inch tubes capable of using, Sub Harpoon, Tomahawk as well as Spearfish Torpedoes (38 weapons are stored of various type) sub Harpoon will be replaced by Sub Scalp Naval.

EDIT: It was announced in August 2014 boat 5 has been ordered and it is now expected all 5 vessels will be in service by 2021 with the first expected in july 2017. it was also announced that following the decision to decommission the 2 Resolution class SLBM Submarines in 2017/8 that instead of Tomahawk these subs will be equipped with the sub launched SCALP Naval and Scalp Naval N (Nuclear).
[ img ]
General Statistics
Class: Astute Class SSN
Type: Nuclear-powered fleet submarine.
No Planned: 5.
No Built: 0.
No Building: 5 From 2015.
Names: NCNS Avenger, NCNS Anger, NCNS Archer, NCNS Assemble, NCNS Agenda.
Builder; Bae Systems Barrow in Furness (UK)
Laid Down; First Planned 2015
Launched; First Planned 2016
Commissioned; First Planned 2017
Home Port(s); Cromer Naval Station and Victoria Naval Station.
Pennant Numbers; TBA
Displacement: 7,000 tonnes, surfaced, 7,400 tonnes, submerged
Length: 97 m (318 ft.)
Beam: 11.3 m (37 ft.)
Draught: 10 m (33 ft.)
Propulsion: Rolls-Royce PWR 2 reactor, MTU 600 kilowatt diesel generators
Speed: Up to 30 knots (56 km/h), submerged
Range: Only limited by food and maintenance requirements.
Test depth: Over 300 m
Complement: 98 (capacity for 109)
Sensors and processing systems: Thales Sonar 2076, Atlas DESO 25 echo sounder, 2 × Thales CM010 optronic masts, Raytheon Successor IFF
Armament: 6 × 21-inch (533 mm) torpedo tubes with stowage for up to 38 weapons, Tomahawk Block IV land-attack missiles, Spearfish heavyweight torpedoes


Frigates

New Cromer announced in 2006 it was working with the UK on the Type 26 GCS. with a view to buy 10 hulls, these will replace the Type 21 and 22 frigates from 2018. preliminary designs is as follows.....
[ img ]
General Statistics
Class: TBA
Type: Frigate Type 26 GCS.
No Planned: 10.
No Built: 0.
No Building: 10 From 2019.
Names: NCNS Graceful, NCNS Gecko, NCNS Grande, NCNS Goliath, NCNS Goblin, NCNS Giant, NCNS Great, NCNS Gauntlet, NCNS Gentle, NCNS Ghost.
Builder; Bae Systems New Cromer
Laid Down; First Planned 2019
Launched; First Planned 2020
Commissioned; First Planned 2021
Home Port(s); Cromer Naval Station and Victoria Naval Station.
Pennant Numbers; TBA
Displacement: 6,000 t (5,900 long tons; 6,600 short tons)
Length: 148.5 m (487 ft.)
Beam: 20 m (66 ft.)
Propulsion:
CODLOG configuration: Rolls-Royce MT30 gas turbine, four high speed diesel generators, two electric motors
Speed: In excess of 28 kn (52 km/h; 32 mph)
Range: 7,000 nautical miles (13,000 km) at 15 kn (28 km/h)
Complement: 118 (accommodation for up to 190)
Sensors and processing systems: Type 997 Artisan 3D radar, Sonar 2087 (towed array sonar), Type 2050 bow sonar, SCOT-5 satcom
Electronic warfare & decoys: IRVIN-GQ DLF decoys
Armament: Anti-air missiles: 8 × 6-cell CAMM VLS canisters for a total of 48 CAMM missiles (range 1-25 km, Strike-length VLS: 1 × 16-cell strike-length Sylver A70 or Mk 41 VLS, Anti-submarine torpedoes, Sting Ray torpedo system
Guns: 1 × BAE 5 inch Mk 45 naval gun, 2 × 30mm DS30M Mk2 guns, 2 × Phalanx CIWS, 2 × Miniguns, 4 × General purpose machine guns
Aircraft carried: 2 × Lynx Wildcat, armed with; 4 × anti-ship missiles, or 2 × anti-submarine torpedoes or 1 × Westland Merlin, armed with; 4 × anti-submarine torpedoes.
Aviation facilities: Large flight deck, Enclosed hangar, Accommodation for UAVs.

Assault Carriers

Replacements for the 2 Oceanic Class carriers have been in the pipe line for several years, two ships based on Italy's Cavour are due to join the fleet in 2018/9 around the same time New Cromer will receive it's first F35B aircraft. steel was cut on the first NCNS New Basford in August 2014.....
[ img ]
General Statistics
Class: New Basford
Type; Assault Carrier.
No Planned: 2.
No Built: 0.
No Building: 2 First steel cut in 2014.
Names: NCNS New Basford, NCNS New Hunstanton
Builder; Bae Systems New Cromer.
Laid Down; Planned 1st September 2014.
Launched; Planned NCNS New Basford 2016, NCNS New Hunstnton 2017.
Commissioned; Planned late 2018 and 2019.
Home Port; Cromer Naval Station.
Pennant Numbers; TBA
Displacement; 29,100 Tonnes; 32,000 tonnes full load.
Length; 250.5m
Beam; 39m
Draught; 8.9m
Propulsion; COGAG 4 × Rolls-Royce Olympus TM6C gas turbines, 8 × Paxman Valenta II diesel generators, 100,000 shp (75 MW) 2 shafts.
Speed; 29+ knots
Range; 7000+ Nautical miles (without RAS)
Compliment; 468 crew, 250 embarked air wing, 160 staff, up to 800 marines.
Main Radars/Sonar;
Armament; 2 8 cell A50 VLS (w mix of Aster 15 and planned to have Quad Pack CAMM), 2 8 cell A70 VLS (w mix of Aster 30 and SCALP Naval), 3 Phalanx CIWS, 3 30mm Auto Cannon, 2 20mm Oerlikon.
Aircraft; Upto 28.


Last edited by shippy2013 on November 30th, 2015, 11:08 am, edited 22 times in total.

Top
[Profile] [Quote]
heuhen
Post subject: Re: Commonwealth of New Cromer AUPosted: May 27th, 2014, 4:25 pm
Offline
User avatar
Posts: 9102
Joined: December 15th, 2010, 10:13 pm
Location: Behind you, looking at you with my mustache!
on the Defiant class. I am not sure if she can fit that many VLS in the beam. VLS i quit deep, and then you need to think abut the structural strengthening in that area, and I also doubt if she have enough lift in the hull to carry all tat VLS forward, when you already have the wight of the gun and the radar.


Top
[Profile] [Quote]
shippy2013
Post subject: Re: Commonwealth of New Cromer AUPosted: May 27th, 2014, 4:34 pm
Offline
User avatar
Posts: 658
Joined: March 26th, 2013, 7:44 pm
Location: Nottingham. United Kingdom
I think i'm pushing the limit but I think she is ok, I ve left the arrangement able to allow a supporting beam to go through the pit for strength and she only has 3 more A70's than the normal type 45 is designed to handle. although only fitted with 6 A50's the type 45 was designed to have 6 A70's with a bank of 12 extra A70 lenth singles down the center. but yes she is at the limit..... not sure how much heavier the 155mm would be compared to the 4.5in (roughly 114.3mm) wouldn't have thought a great deal depend on magazine size and ammo weight, but if its a problem I can have a smaller magazine the gun wont see a lot of use it's a legacy weopon now days show bombardment and fire support or the odd warning shot for the thick..... :lol:

my vision with her is the Hull although Trimaran wouldn't be much less wider/narrower than the normal T45 hull the out riggers would be more of a stabalising Blade/Sponson the wider beam above to allow the bigger hangar/mission bays, accommodation and stores... one day I will do a head on/rear on view..


Top
[Profile] [Quote]
swin_lad
Post subject: Re: Commonwealth of New Cromer AUPosted: May 27th, 2014, 5:43 pm
Offline
User avatar
Posts: 312
Joined: December 10th, 2010, 2:05 pm
Location: Swindon Town FC, From the West Country
Just looked back at your SSBN and I have to say that carrying CMs compromises it. A bomber is designed to never be seen until it has launched. Fair idea but on patrols on missile type or the other, not both!

_________________
Nick

@ashwellkennedy


Top
[Profile] [Quote]
shippy2013
Post subject: Re: Commonwealth of New Cromer AUPosted: May 27th, 2014, 5:53 pm
Offline
User avatar
Posts: 658
Joined: March 26th, 2013, 7:44 pm
Location: Nottingham. United Kingdom
the decision to felid both was based on the fact Trident 1 was obsolete and not wanting to fully give up it ballistic missile deterrent and with massive investments taking place else were thus funds not being available for new Trident 2 boats, the decision was made to reduce the number of missiles carried, due in fact to the limited stock pile available. i could have converted one sub to a cruise missile carrier and left the other as an SSBN but then a 1 sub constant patrol could not be maintained when 1 sub was out for extended periods on maintenance. so i thought split the armament 1 boat acts as a deterrent on patrol the other is in standby and available as another asset if a conventional strike is needed. when the boat on patrol is recalled home for maintenance or crew change the other boat can still be despatched to maintain the patrol. as of 2017 these subs will be decommissioned anyway and as no replacement is in the pipeline the SSBN deterrent will be finished with New Cromer relying on air launched stand off nuclear armed cruise missiles from both the Navy and Air Force. this is also reinforced by the decision to buy 4 Astute class with the option of a 5th as these will replace the 3 Churchill's and the 2 SSBN's.


Top
[Profile] [Quote]
shippy2013
Post subject: Re: Commonwealth of New Cromer AUPosted: June 6th, 2014, 1:57 pm
Offline
User avatar
Posts: 658
Joined: March 26th, 2013, 7:44 pm
Location: Nottingham. United Kingdom
Page 1 edited, History and Background now complete, I think........


Top
[Profile] [Quote]
Rowdy36
Post subject: Re: Commonwealth of New Cromer AUPosted: June 6th, 2014, 5:23 pm
Offline
User avatar
Posts: 942
Joined: August 1st, 2010, 7:51 am
Location: Perth, Australia
Looks good to me - this is an AU that I will be following with great interest. I noticed you wrote about the sports in New Cromer, can we hope for more details in future posts? :)

_________________
[ img ]


Top
[Profile] [Quote]
shippy2013
Post subject: Re: Commonwealth of New Cromer AUPosted: June 17th, 2014, 1:26 pm
Offline
User avatar
Posts: 658
Joined: March 26th, 2013, 7:44 pm
Location: Nottingham. United Kingdom
[ img ]

Past Navy of New Cromer


Aircraft Carriers

NCNS Cromer and Victoria in as completed condition in 1968. NCNS Cromer was completed in 1965 to the same design as HMS Hermes was completed in 1959, NCNS Victoria was built to a even more modified design and was completed in 1968.
Cromer officially entered service in 1966 with Victoria following in 1969, throughout the 1970's and early 80's the vessels were involved in numerous african conflicts and sabre rattling in the Middle East. the Carriers were involved in numerous operations with the RN of Great Britain and in some operations with the navy's of France and the US. The Carrier Victoria was involved in the 1979 Vela nuclear test and it is believed one of here Buccaneers dropped the device in the test. during the late 1980's the carriers aircraft were beginning to show there age and were becoming harder and harder to maintain.
New Cromer having shown interest in the UK's Harrier programme and indeed the conversion of HMS Hermes did a feasibility study on converting its two carriers.
[ img ]
[ img ]
General Statistics
Class: centaur class carrier
Type; Light Fleet Carrier.
No Planned: 8 for the RN (reduced to 4 Ships 5 and 6 became New Cromer’s)
No Built: 6 (4 RN and 2 NC)
Retired: New Cromer 2, RN 4 (1 Ex RN still in use with India)
Names: NCNS Cromer and NCNS Victoria
Builder; Harland and Wolff Belfast, UK, Hulls, Fitted out and completed New Cromer Defence Systems, New Cromer.
Laid Down; Both Keels laid in 1955, construction halted till 1958 when NC Purchased the 25% complete hulls. Construction restarted to modified designs in 1959 and 1960.
Launched; 1963 and 1965.
Commissioned; 1968 and 1969
Home Port; Victoria Naval Station.
Pennant Numbers; R56, R57
Displacement: 22,000 tons 28,700 tons full load as built. (Cromer 23,650 and 29,100 after refit)
Length: 737 ft. (224.6 m) as built. Cromer 774ft 9in after refit.
Beam: 130 ft. (39.6 m) as Built. Cromer 148ft after refit.
Draught: 28.5 ft. (8.7 m)
Installed power: 78,000 hp (58,000 kW)
Propulsion: 2 shaft geared steam turbines, 4 Admiralty 3-drum boilers
Speed: 28 knots (52 km/h)
Sensors and processing systems: Radar Type 982, Type 983, Type 275, Type 974,
Armament: 32 40mm Bofors guns (2 × 6), (8 × 2), (4 × 1), Cromer after refit 2 Sea Cat launchers.
Armour: 1 inch flight deck, Hangar deck
Aircraft carried: Original Air wing, 12 Vixens, 7 Buccaneers, 5 Gannets and 6 Wessex or Sea King. Cromer after Refit, Upto 28 Harrier GR5 or 7 and Up to 9 Sea King.


with a serious fire forcing NCNS Victoria out of service in 1991 only NCNS Cromer was rebuilt as a commando carrier able to operate harriers and was recommissioned in 1992. She served for a further 10 years being involved in several other african and middle eastern conflicts, peace keeping roles and patrols. She was not involved in the first Gulf war as she was in refit at the time but between 1992 and 1998 was deployed several times to help enforce no fly zones in the Gulf. Plans to replace the carrier stretched back to 1989 and design work had been slowly progressing on 2 new CVN's but delays kept knocking back the in service dates of these an Cromer was forced to soldier on. After a number of years operating all over the indian, southern oceans and gulf area and suffering from regular machinery failures she was finally decommissioned in 2002 after a long and hard career being temporally replaced by the 2 Oceanic class Assault carriers till the arrival of New Cromer's 2 CVN's from 2006 .

[ img ]

Cruiser

1961 Helicopter Cruiser design
Commissioned in 1971, 3 of these ships were planned, they would provide ASW capabilities and as escorts for New Cromers 2 Centaur Class carriers. Ships 2 and 3 were canceled shortly after the first was started due to budgetary constraints meaning NCNS Courage was a unique vessel. The design stems from a RN helicopter cruiser study from 1961 that was not pursued in the UK but New Cromer’s showed considerable interest. The ships were the first large military ships built in New Cromer by the then New Cromer Defence Systems. Electronics and weapons system sourced from the UK. Construction began in late 1963 and the ship was launched in 1967 and was commissioned the same day NCNS Victoria also arrived with the fleet in 1969 the 2 would see there careers somewhat linked till Victoria was decommissioned in 1991. Armed with Sea Slug and a twin 4,5in turret the ship took the place of a County Class destroyer when working with a carrier group but offered much greater ASW capability with up to 6 Helicopters, sea slug was withdrawn in 1994 along with the counties and the aft area of the ship was rebuilt. Other missions which the ship saw regular work included insertion of Marine commandos and Humanitarian aid work. After the fire on NCNS Victoria in 1991 there was consideration to fit the ship with a 12’ ski jump to allow Harriers to be operated as an interim short term solution to New Cromer's carrier problems but these plans were dropped when the Oceanic Class LPH ships were finally ordered with ski jumps to fill in till arrival of the much delayed CVN’s. The ship was retired in 1999 after 30 years hard service and was scrapped in 2002.

[ img ]

General Statistics
Class: Courage Class.
Type; Helicopter Through Deck Cruiser.
No Planned: 3.
No Built: 1. 2 Cancelled before construction began.
No Building: 0.
Retired. 1 (1999).
Names: NCNS Courage.
Builder; New Cromer Defence Systems.
Laid Down; 1st September 1963.
Launched; 1967.
Commissioned; 1969 to 1999.. (Ship was officially held in reserve from 1995-9).
Home Port; Cromer Naval Station.
Pennant Numbers; C51
Displacement; 13,400 tons fully laden
Length; 595ft (181.3meters).
Beam; 78.5ft (23.9meters) (waterline), 122.5ft (37.3meters) (flight deck).
Draught; 29.5ft (8.9meters)
Propulsion; COGAG 4 × Gas Turbines on 2 shafts.
Speed; 29+ knots
Range; 4400+ Nautical miles (without RAS)
Compliment; 212 crew, 80 embarked air wing, up to 45 marines.
Main Radars/Sonar; Type 965 air search radar with twin bedstead AKE-2, Type 992Q low angle search radar, Type 901M radar, Type 2016 sonar (fitted post 1990).
Armament; 1x Twin gunned turret with 4.5inch (114mm) guns Mark N6, 2x Oerlikon 20mm Cannons, 1x Aft mounted Seaslug GWS.2 SAM with 24 Rounds also capable of firing the GWS.2N, 2x GWS 22 Seacat SAM.
Aircraft; Upto 6 Sea King sized Helicopter’s
Aviation Facilities: Flight deck, hangar and Lift.


HMS Lion Joined New Cromer's Navy in 1972 after her career finished with the RN, she entered full commission in 1975, she was at the time the only Cruiser in New Cromer's navy and was used as a flagship up till the arrival of her sister ship Blake in 1983. Her main role was shore bombardment and fire support for marine operations, Flag ship duties. She was retired in 1987 and was used as a source of spares for Blake until being scrapped in 1991. in her 18 year career with the navy she received the nickname Jinxo after being involved in 4 instances of running aground, 2 collisions with other vessels, a number of accidents on board 2 resulting in fatalities and in 1986 she was nearly or was hit (depending on how you look at it) by an Exocet missile fired by a County Class destroyer during a live fire exercise were NCNS Lion was 10 mile out of position and ended up being locked up by the missile, fortunately last second course change resulted in the missile glancing off of the A turret and tumbling end over end into the sea 100yards beyond the ship.

[ img ]
General Statistics
Class: Tiger Class.
Type: Light cruiser
No Built: 3 For RN (all Bought by New Cromer eventually but only 2 would serve)
Retired: NCNS Lion 1987, NCNS Blake 2008 (Tiger never entered service with New Cromer being stripped for spares and scrapped in 1984).
Names: NCNS Lion, HMS Tiger and NCNS Blake (Tiger never r- named)
Builder; John Brown and Co, Glasgow, UK and Fairfield’s Glasgow ,UK.
Laid Down; From 1941
Launched; From 1945 .
Commissioned; RN 1959, NC 1972 and 1986.
Home Port; Cromer Naval station (NCNS Lion) and Victoria Naval Station (NCNS Blake)
Pennant Numbers; C34 Lion, C99 Blake
Displacement: 11,700 tons (12,080 tons after conversion of Blake and Tiger)
Length: 555.5 ft (169 m)
Beam: 64 ft (19.5 m)
Draught: 23 ft (7.0 m)
Installed power: 80,000 shp (60 MW)
Propulsion: Four Admiralty-type three drum boilers
Four shaft Parsons steam turbines
Speed: 31.5 knots (58.3 km/h)
Range: 8,000 nautical miles (15,000 km) at 16 knots (30 km/h)
Complement: 716 (885 after conversion of Blake and Tiger)
Armament: As built: 2 × twin 6 in guns QF Mark N5 with RP15 (hydraulic) or RP53 (electric) RPC (One later removed from Blake and Tiger, 3 × twin 3 in guns QF Mark N1. As helicopter cruisers (Blake & Tiger): 1 × twin 6 in guns QF Mark N5 with RP15 (hydraulic) or RP53 (electric) RPC, 1 × twin 3 in guns QF Mark N1 2 × quad GWS.21 Sea Cat missile launchers, Blake later received 1 Sextuplet SeaWolf launcher and 2 Phanlanx 20mm Guns.
Armour: Belt 3.5 in - 3.25 in, Bulkheads 2 in - 1.5 in, Turrets 2 in - 1 in, Crowns of engine room and magazines 2 in
Aircraft carried (After Conversion): 4 × helicopters (originally Wessex then Sea King).


HMS Blake along with her sister Tiger for spare were bought by New Cromer in 1983, work had been carrried out on the ships in 1982 in the UK with a veiw to re activate them for the Faulklands war but this was halted when it became apparrent the war would be over before they were ready. New Cromer bought both ships Blake to return to service and use as at first a Helicopter cruiser fro marrine operations but she later saw use as an ASW platform, flag ship, casualty reception vessel. Tiger was scrapped in 1984 and any usable spare retained for Blake that had been deemed in better shape.

[ img ]

NCNS Blake was given a moderate deffensive upgrade in 1987. The opertunity was taken following a nèed for some extensive repairs after a collision with a USN ship during an exorcise off Italy. She was decommissioned in 2007 after the arrival of the Bay and Albion class vessels.

[ img ]

Destroyers

5 County Class destroyers were bought in 1966 and formed the destroyer force for New Cromer as Carrier escorts and general suface combatants. The 5 ships were heavily worked and were involved in many operations off the East African coast, the Gulf and Indian and Souther Oceans. One of the class was involved in a major incident in the Gulf whist enforcing a blockade of an Iraqi port in the mid 1980's an Iraqi oil tanker refused to slow and be boarded by another New Cromer warship after firing a number of warning shots across the tankers bow and still refusing to halt NCNS Caracal loosed of a Sea Slug missile to deter the captain of the merchant ship from proceeding the missile which was supposed to fly over the tankers bow, accidentally struck the mast at the bow of the tanker crashing onto the tankers for-deck the remaining propellent started a major fire which soon engulfed the entire ship 8 of the crew were killed and after 18hours of the tanker floating ablaze a huge explosion tore the ship apart. A subsequent enquiry resulted in a court marshal and dismissal of 5 of the ships command staff and the captain being sentenced to 6 years in military prison. NCNS Oryx was involved in the 1983-84 New Cromer/Yemen/Oman Crisis and this ship was responsible for the Downing of a Pakistani Airways DC10 in November of 1983, the aircraft was carrying 164 passengers (1/2 Load) after sustaining severe damage to the tail plane after the Sea Slug hit, the pilot was able to glide the crippled airliner over Oman and crash land it in an Oman Airport. 64 died and 86 were badly injured, 14 people including the pilots walked from the wreckage without injury), later investigation showed that the crew of Oryx had mistaken the plane for a Yemen military aircraft and after not receiving any reply from repeated attempts to get the plane to alter coarse fired, it was later realised the frequency they were trying to call the plane on wasn't being listened into by the aircraft hence why there was no reply. the incident led to New Cromer introducing a strict identify before fire policy.

[ img ]
General Statistics
Class: County Class Destroyer.
Type; Guided Missile Destroyer.
No Built: 5
Retired: 5 last in 1994.
Names: NCNS Addax, NCNS Oryx, NCNS Bongo, NCNS Bontebok and NCNS Caracal.
Builder; Fairfield’s, Glasgow UK and Swan Hunter, Newcastle UK.
Laid Down; First 1961
Launched: First 1964
Commissioned; From 1967
Home Port; Cromer Naval Station and Victoria Naval Station.
Pennant Numbers; TBA
Displacement: 6,200 tons
Length: 520.16 ft. (158.54 m)
Beam: 54 ft. (16 m)
Draught: 21 ft. (6.4 m)
Propulsion: COSAG on 2 shafts, 2 × Babcock & Wilcox boilers, geared steam turbines, 30,000 shp, 4 × Metrovick G6 gas turbines, 30,000 shp.
Speed: 30 knots (56 km/h; 35 mph)
Range: 3,500 nm
Complement: 471 (33 officers, 438 ratings)
Armament: originally 2 × Fore-mounted twin-gunned turret with 4.5-inch (114 mm) guns Mark N6, turret "B" was later replaced by 4 × MM38 Exocet missile launchers in 1975, 2 × mountings for Oerlikon 20 mm cannon, 1 × Aft-mounted Seaslug GWS.1 or GWS.2 SAM (24 missiles) later 4 W44 warheads were carried and could be fitted to the GWS.2, 2 × mountings (port & starboard) for Seacat GWS-22 SAM, 2 × triple-tube launchers for ship borne torpedoes
Aircraft carried: 1 × Wessex HAS Mk 3 helicopter
Aviation facilities: Flight deck and enclosed hangar for embarking one helicopter


a minor offensive upgrade giving Exocet capability was carried out in 1975 the last of the counties left service in 1994, NCNS Bongo was expended as a target in 1988 during the Sea Arrow missile trials on the Type 42's. A single missile impacting amid ships broke the ships back and she sank in a few minutes. NCNS Addax was also expended as a target in 2012 testing an Anti Ship variant of EADS SCALP Naval which New Cromer one day intends to replace Harpoon, although by this time she was no more than a floating hulk. The missile missed and instead the hulk was sunk aircraft from NCNS Victoria using various munitions.

[ img ]

Frigates

back bone of the New Cromer navy from 1966-1989 were 14 vessels 11 Type 12 and 3 type 81 frigates. the type 12 would see modifications into 3 distict suface types and the type 81's were used as general surface combatants. the final type 12 were removed from service in 1990, the type 81's survived untill 1995. The vessels were involved in many operations around the region from ASW, to Enforcing embargoes to intercepting smugglers, people traffickers, illegal immigrants fisheries patrol and escorting New Cromer's and foreign ships during operations. The Type 81's were employed mainly in the Gulf area and saw very active careers in such a volatile area. it was a Type 81 that was attempting to board an Iraqi tanker in the 1980's that was accidentally destroyed by one on New Cromer's County class destroyers. NCNS Qallu picked up 22 survivors off of the Tanker before fire engulfed the entire tanker and the frigate had to pull back to a safe distance.

[ img ]
General Statistics
Class: Type 12 Frigate Whitby Class.
Type; Frigate.
No Built: 6RN, 2Indian and 11 for New Cromer.
Retired: 11 New Cromer.
Names: NCNS Nidar, NCNS Huur, NCNS Eebo, NCNS Ayaanle, NCNS Araweello, NCNS Wiilwaal, NCNS Bucur Bacayr, NCNS Habbad ina Kamas, NCNS Birir ina Barqo, NCNS Qori Ismaris and NCNS Dhegdheer.
Builder; Cammell Laird, Birkenhead, UK and Harland & Wolff, Belfast, UK.
Laid Down; From 1957.
Launched; From 1958.
Commissioned; 1959 to the last retired in 1991.
Home Port; New Oxley Naval Station, Victoria Naval Station, Cromer Naval Station.
Pennant Numbers; TBA
Displacement: 2,150 tons (2,185 tonnes), 2,560 tons full load (2,600 tonnes)
Length: 360 ft. (109.7 m) w/l, 370 ft. (112.8 m) o/a
Beam: 41 ft. (12.5 m)
Draught: 17 ft. (5.2 m)
Propulsion: Y-100 plant; 2 Babcock and Wilcox boilers, 2 English Electric steam turbines, 2 shafts, 30,000 shp (22 MW)
Speed: 30 kn (56 km/h)
Range: 370 tons oil fuel, 4,200 nmi (7,780 km) at 12 knots (22 km/h)
Complement: 152, later 225
Sensors and processing systems: Radar Type 293Q target indication, later; Radar Type 993, Radar Type 277Q height finding (later removed), Radar Type 275 fire control on director Mark 6M, Radar Type 262 fire control on STAAG, Radar Type 974 navigation, Type 1010 Cossor Mark 10 IFF, Sonar Type 174 search, Sonar Type 162 target classification, Sonar Type 170 attack
Armament: 1 x twin 4.5 in (114 mm) gun Mark 6, 1 x twin 40 mm Bofors gun Mark 2 STAAG, later;, 1 x single 40 mm Bofors gun Mark 7, 2 x Limbo anti-submarine mortar Mark 10, 12 x 21 in anti-submarine torpedo tubes (removed late 1980’s)

[ img ]
General Statistics
Class: Type 81 TRIBAL
Type; Frigate
No Built: 10 (7 for the RN of the UK and 3 for New Cromer)
Retired: 7 (All New Cromer’s are Decommissioned and all but 3 RN ship scrapped 3 sold to Indonesia)
Names: NCNS Yibris, NCNS Qaliu and Waaq
Builder; Yarrow & Co Ltd, Glasgow, UK.
Laid Down; From 1960
Launched; From 1962.
Commissioned; From 1963. All decommissioned in 1995.
Home Port; New Oxley Naval Station but were out stationed to Kuwait for most of their lives.
Pennant Numbers; TBA
Displacement: 2,300 long tons (2,300 t) standard, 2,700 long tons (2,700 t) full load
Length: 360 ft. 0 in (109.73 m) Oa, 350 ft. 0 in (106.68 m) pp
Beam: 42 ft. 3 in (12.88 m)
Draught: 13 ft. 3 in (4.04 m), 17 ft. 6 in (5.33 m) (propellers)
Propulsion: Single-shaft COSAG, 1 Steam turbine 12,500 shp (9,300 kW), 1 Metrovick G-6 gas turbine 7,500 shp (5,600 kW)
Speed: 27 knots (50 km/h; 31 mph) (COSAG)
Range: 4,500 nautical miles (8,300 km; 5,200 mi) at 12 knots (22 km/h; 14 mph)
Complement: 253
Sensors and processing systems: Radar type 965 air-search, Radar type 993 low-angle search, Radar type 978 navigation, Radar type 903 gunnery fire-control, Radar type 262 GWS-21 fire-control, Sonar type 177 search, Sonar type 170 attack, Sonar type 162 bottom profiling
Waaq: Sonar type 199 variable-depth
Armament: 2 × single 4.5 inch (114 mm) Mark 5* Mod 1 guns, 2 × single 40 mm Mark 7 Bofors guns, later;, 2 × four-rail GWS-20 Sea Cat missile systems, 2 × single 20 mm Oerlikon guns, 1 × Mark 10 Limbo ASW mortar
Aircraft carried: 1 × Westland Wasp helicopter


Submarines

6 Oberon Class submarrines served the navy from 1959 to 1993 when they were replaced by ex RN Churchil class boats. One vessel NCNS Ala was lost with all hands in 1978 after a collision with a merchant vessel in the Indian Ocean it is still debated wether this was an accident or an intentional ramming....... The Oberon Class were replaced by the Churchill class in 1992-93 after cracks were discovered in a number of bulkheads following very active careers. They spent there careers keeping tabs on foreign submarine and surface shipping in the indian and southern oceans as well as intelligence gathering missions in the Middle East. NCNS Agwu was the last to be decommissioned in 1994. 3 of the 5 survivors were scrapped between 1995 and 1997 with NCNS Agwu preserved as a museum piece and NCNS Chukwu expended as a remote target in 1996 using an Ikara missile.

[ img ]
General Statistics
Class: Oberon class SSK
Type; Attack/Patrol submarine
No Built: 33 (6 for New Cromer and 27 for various navy’s Inc the RN)
Retired: New Cromer 6 (1 sunk in accident 1978), All of the rest.
Names: NCNS Chukwu, NCNS Aha Njoku, NCNS Ala, NCNS Amadioha, NCNS Ikenga and NCNS Agwu.
Builder; Vickers Armstrong Shipbuilding Ltd, Barrow, UK
Laid Down; From 1959
Launched; From 1961.
Commissioned; From 1962
Home Port; Victoria Naval Station
Pennant Numbers; TBA
Displacement: Surfaced: 2,030 t (2,000 long tons), Submerged: 2,410 t (2,370 long tons)
Length: 295.2 ft. (90.0 m)
Beam: 26.5 ft. (8.1 m)
Draught: 18 ft. (5.5 m)
Propulsion: 2 × 3,680 hp Admiralty Standard Range V16 diesels, 2 × 1280 kW generators, 2 × 3,000 hp electric motors, diesel-electric 2 shafts
Speed: Surfaced: 12 knots (22 km/h; 14 mph), Submerged: 17 knots (31 km/h; 20 mph)
Range: 10,350 nautical miles (19,170 km; 11,910 mi) at surface cruising speed
Test depth: 650 ft. (200 m)
Complement: 7 officers, 62 sailors
Sensors and processing systems: Type 1002 surface search and navigation radar, Type 187 Active-Passive attack sonar, Type 2007 long range passive sonar
Electronic warfare & decoys: MEL Manta UAL or UA4 radar warning.
Armament: 6 × 21 in (533.4 mm) bow tubes, 20 torpedoes, 2 × 21 in (533.4 mm) short stern tubes, 2 torpedoes, Forward torpedo payload could be replaced with 50 × mines


Last edited by shippy2013 on March 26th, 2015, 12:59 pm, edited 21 times in total.

Top
[Profile] [Quote]
Bombhead
Post subject: Re: Commonwealth of New Cromer AUPosted: June 17th, 2014, 8:00 pm
Offline
User avatar
Posts: 2299
Joined: July 27th, 2010, 7:41 pm
Great AU Shippy. 8-)


Top
[Profile] [Quote]
shippy2013
Post subject: Re: Commonwealth of New Cromer AUPosted: June 22nd, 2014, 8:53 am
Offline
User avatar
Posts: 658
Joined: March 26th, 2013, 7:44 pm
Location: Nottingham. United Kingdom
Past Navy post updated Type 81's updated with new radar parts and NCNS Waaq added as refitted in 1974 with SQS 504 Diver towed array sonar similar to the fit carried by the RN HMS Ashanti. also Sea Cat was added.


Top
[Profile] [Quote]
Display: Sort by: Direction:
[Post Reply]  Page 3 of 9  [ 82 posts ]  Return to “Alternate Universe Designs” | Go to page « 1 2 3 4 59 »

Jump to: 

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 51 guests


The team | Delete all board cookies | All times are UTC


cron
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Limited
[ GZIP: Off ]