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Made a few changes

*new propeller (more correctly models a four bladed propeller) and shaft
*fixed a lifeboat rudder
*a few errant pixels removed or fixed

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An update, after acquiring some new sources, I've noticed the first two ships in the class Saxonia and Ivernia were not identical to final two ships of the class. The major difference being the superstructure aft of the bridge.

*lifeboats corrected to 36ft boats
*Bridge structure corrected to properly represent the Saxonia
*Corrections to promenade deck.
*Minor corrections

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what shading rule have you used for the hull? it looks like the stern has an really weird shape, and the bilge diameter is very low along a lot of the ship...... both seem unlikely to me, so I think the shading does not represent the ships shape entirely correct.

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For the bilge keel I'm going off the reference drawing I have, it's the only source that's show the underwater hull. As for the hull shading I was using other drawings on here with a similar hull shape as a reference.

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not the bilge keel, the bilge. the round part of the main cross section.
I know the hull shading is incorrect on quite a few drawings, not representing the actual shape of the hull, as in 'it is drawn just to make it look good, not to show the shape'. the general rule on things like that is though, 'don't draw it if you don't know how it should be shaped'

if you have an idea how the hull is actually shaped, I suggest the shading rule I use: shaded if below 45 degrees from the vertical. so everything that is 45 degrees or more vertical is not shaded, everything that is 45 degrees or more horizontal is shaded.

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I'm not 100% sure what you mean by the bilge being to low. As for the shading I have a decent idea of how the hull is shaped, just not how to shade it correctly.

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let me visualise it:

left is how the shadings shows it, right is how I think it should look a bit. only the main cross section is about correct, only the bilge strake (the round part of it) seems to be to small.
following the 45 degree rule, the bow should have no shading at all, as it is nowhere more then 45 degrees. the stern should have an unshaded part at the bottom, where the skeg goes near vertical again, and above that an part shaded, where the bottom of the ship is near horizontal, making place for the propellers (how big this part is depends on the ships shape) and above that hull goes to vertical again. above the waterline, nothing should be shaded, unless there is an extreme flare in the bow, which is possible but I don't think is the case.

with other rule sets (30-60 degrees are sometimes used, or 90 degrees, shading everything that is not vertical) the details change a bit, as do the shapes I drew representing your shading (I drew the cross sections as if you used the 45 degree rule)

if this dazzles you, I suggest going back to 'regular' sb shading, which might look a bit flatter but represents the ship more correct.

EDIT: also, your shading under the bridge overhang and the overhang behind the lifeboats does not follow shipbucket standards.

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Would this be closer to standard hull shading? Also do people actually follow these SB standard, I see a number of recent additions to the database that seem not too. Removed the light grey under the boats, so litttle curved shade under the bridge needs to go too?

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SB standards, we do have some rule breaker here in the forum, some of them have they just ignored. But I bet that in the near future it will be more restrict, and where the limit is.

Changed the shading to what I gather is standard, a bit different hues though. I'm starting to find the shading a bit tedious and annoying quite frankly, since everyone seems to have a different idea of what it should be. Especially since most of the ships in merchant ship seem to be shaded the same way, which apparently is wrong.

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US Navy auxiliaries
Canadian Pacific Steamships Empress of Britain (post war)
Cunard Line Ascania (final 1950s configuration)
Cunard Line RMS Aquitania