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David Latuch
Post subject: Re: My Revised 21 Century BattleshipPosted: January 30th, 2014, 10:11 pm
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Here are the Bow and Stern Views of the USS Vermont (BBGN-72)

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Post subject: Re: My Revised 21 Century BattleshipPosted: January 30th, 2014, 10:27 pm
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The degree to which you block your SPY-1 aft is rather unfortunate. One wonders if a ship of this implausible scale would simply mount redundant sets of arrays.

If nothing else, a 0/90-forward 180/270-aft arrangement like Ticonderoga would give you 360deg coverage with only four arrays.


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Post subject: Re: My Revised 21 Century BattleshipPosted: January 30th, 2014, 10:54 pm
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Hi David,

Another question that's been bugging me slightly ... does your battleship have Kort nozzles? I'm trying to make out what that surround on the props is and I just can't figure out what it would be if not that.

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Post subject: Re: My Revised 21 Century BattleshipPosted: January 31st, 2014, 12:23 am
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The SPY is only masked because of that random place saver arrays on the aft mast which we still don't know what the purpose for them is. If it was lowered or lopped off it would be fine.


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Post subject: Re: My Revised 21 Century BattleshipPosted: January 31st, 2014, 9:40 am
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Yes propulsors by any other name still reduce noise snd improve performance.

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Post subject: Re: My Revised 21 Century BattleshipPosted: January 31st, 2014, 9:44 am
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yes, but what kind of propulsors are these?

the fact that carriers still have unducted propellers show that these work best for ships of that size, and I could give you more technical reasons why unducted propellers are used, but what kind of have you used, and for what reasons?

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Post subject: Re: My Revised 21 Century BattleshipPosted: January 31st, 2014, 10:14 am
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Hi Ace,

I, of course, defer to your expertise, but I understood that the whole ducted props thing was more about performance at a given speed - with the efficiency of a ducted prop tailing off at ~10+ kt compared to an unducted prop. Is that correct? It's not something I've researched a great deal (and, to be fair, isn't something I'm sure counts as "your area" either...)

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Post subject: Re: My Revised 21 Century BattleshipPosted: January 31st, 2014, 10:36 am
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yeah, ducted props work on relatively higher powers and relatively low speed.

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Post subject: Re: My Revised 21 Century BattleshipPosted: January 31st, 2014, 10:50 am
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Oh, I'd missed the "higher power" thing ... which is, therefore, why they're tugboat props. Basically.

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Post subject: Re: My Revised 21 Century BattleshipPosted: January 31st, 2014, 7:44 pm
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I too defer to your expertise, are propulsors used on submarines merely because of the noise reduction commensurate with the reduction in prop cavitation? I’ve used them on my ship for noise reduction and prop masking reasons in the hopes that ship borne noise reduction would enhance the effectiveness of nixie decoys.

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