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Post subject: Norway on firePosted: January 29th, 2014, 6:09 pm
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there have/are (been) three fire in Norway.

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first this happens (ca. 24 houses burned down): http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-25799960

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then this happens (a couple days ago, just stopped): A peninsula take fire, and before the fire brigade and units from military manage to stop it, 55 buildings was lost.
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3. (and now) at an another place but not far from number two fire a heath fire happens, and now over 170 people have been evacuate.
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fire brigades from other city's is flown in, and also military personnel with helicopters are out there to.

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and just now, very little information on it, but: a mudslide have just happen in the same part of Norway as number 2. and 3. fire. the landslide produced a tsunami that took a couple docks and jetties.


all this in a single month. what will next month bring?


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Post subject: Re: Norway on firePosted: January 29th, 2014, 8:28 pm
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Are brush fires like these common in Norway?

They are here in parts of California. It's become an issue for a number of reasons here.

A decades long zero fire policy which allowed underbrush (fuel) to build up so that what would have been minor fires, got and get huge.

Way too much housing built in fire prone areas!

Finally getting a spot of rain in my part of the state...should wet the brush for a while but it won't dent the draught at all.

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Post subject: Re: Norway on firePosted: January 29th, 2014, 8:37 pm
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Are brush fires like these common in Norway?
No, but farmers do. but that under controlled circumstances.
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They are here in parts of California. It's become an issue for a number of reasons here.
Yeah I heard abut that. but when these fire happens it was bellow freezing point. so yeah!

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yeah but those houses are build from all back to 1700 to today. if I remember correct since 60-70's the government issued and rule about how fireproof an new house need to be (changing every year), those houses from 1700-1800 are on an list that say the house must look as close as original, but you can get aproval for upgrade the inside of those old house. but still an hose from 1700 is an fireboomb.
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Finally getting a spot of rain in my part of the state...should wet the brush for a while but it won't dent the draught at all.
lucky you. no rain here.


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Post subject: Re: Norway on firePosted: January 30th, 2014, 8:30 am
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Being from the bushfire capital of the world (Australia), I can empathise. Hope not too much damage or loss of life occurs.

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Post subject: Re: Norway on firePosted: January 30th, 2014, 8:51 am
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We have been lucky so far.


just to explain how bad these is for us. While we are used to have more than -20C and a tonn of snow. But a bush fire is so rare here in Norway, that it's more normal to drown,in snow for us. Oh wait!


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Post subject: Re: Norway on firePosted: January 30th, 2014, 11:20 am
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How unusual. It appears that here in the UK we are stealing everybody's rain!

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Post subject: Re: Norway on firePosted: January 30th, 2014, 11:27 am
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How unusual. It appears that here in the UK we are stealing everybody's rain!
Lucky bastards! Here in Texas (North Texas) we haven't been getting much rain, but on the Christmas break we got 3 inches of ice, not snow, solid ice, for a whole week. That was pretty crazy, especially considering that most people here in America can't drive, let alone on ice ;) .

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Post subject: Re: Norway on firePosted: January 30th, 2014, 11:34 am
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ezgo394 wrote:
Lucky bastards! Here in Texas (North Texas) we haven't been getting much rain, but on the Christmas break we got 3 inches of ice, not snow, solid ice, for a whole week. That was pretty crazy, especially considering that most people here in America can't drive, let alone on ice ;) .
Sounds extreme! I know what you mean about people not being able to drive. When it freezes here (at worst a couple of times a year for a very short period) you see how people struggle to cope and clearly don't understand the physics of driving with reduced friction. This goes from hilarious: Mums doing the school run in her RWD BMW going sideways at 5 mph in 4th gear and looking confused; to downright dangerous: driving as if the road conditions were dry and sunny and being surprised when their brakes don't work and spectacularly rear-end a stationary vehicle.

People can be incredibly stupid.

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Post subject: Re: Norway on firePosted: January 30th, 2014, 11:55 am
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And Using wrong tires. Here in Scandinavia we use tires that you normalt don't get other places.


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Post subject: Re: Norway on firePosted: January 30th, 2014, 1:45 pm
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Lucky bastards! Here in Texas (North Texas) we haven't been getting much rain, but on the Christmas break we got 3 inches of ice, not snow, solid ice, for a whole week. That was pretty crazy, especially considering that most people here in America can't drive, let alone on ice ;) .

Sounds extreme! I know what you mean about people not being able to drive. When it freezes here (at worst a couple of times a year for a very short period) you see how people struggle to cope and clearly don't understand the physics of driving with reduced friction. This goes from hilarious: Mums doing the school run in her RWD BMW going sideways at 5 mph in 4th gear and looking confused; to downright dangerous: driving as if the road conditions were dry and sunny and being surprised when their brakes don't work and spectacularly rear-end a stationary vehicle.

People can be incredibly stupid.
Sounds like Southern California (Los Angeles, Orange County) pretty much all the time. When they get rain it's really amuzing; think 70mph bumper to bumper, panic stops, cars skidding backwards in the fast lane...

So it finally rained last night here north of the Golden Gate, just a little. What's kind of scary is that California may be returning to what's been normal for the past several thousand years. This State was settled and developed during an unusually wet century. Overlay that with the possible "Global Warming" and things could get interesting.

Sorry for the digression, Back to Norway.

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