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I'm in the process of redrawing her now. I'm trying to keep her to a Nimitz carrier's length. Not an easy task with 20" primaries and 8" secondaries. But I'll do my best.

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French Vice-admiral Louis-René-Madeleine Le Vassor de La Touche, comte de Tréville
The original spelling of my last name is: LaTouche.

Although the concept is not my cup of tea, you seem to be an excellent artist. Some SB styling issues I can see are the non standard shading on the hull, railings on the main deck and an absence of overhang shading. You've certainly made a big splash with this ship, welcome to shipbucket.

I hope to see your talents on a real design!

Thanks.

The main deck railings were deliberate. US warships generally have three strands of cable strung between stanchions. Pipe rails are on the upper decks. At least that’s the way it was when I was in the navy. I was attempting to simulate them. The shading--well that needs more work.

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The original spelling of my last name is: LaTouche.

The reason why we use the standard two-line railings despite the fact that it's not a particularly accurate rendition of most railings is because a "properly" rendered railing would obscure everything behind it to the point where it becomes an unrecognisable pixel soup. And of course, while it may not be particularly accurate, the limitations of the scale means that any other rendition isn't going to be significantly better without resorting to all kinds of non-standard shading techniques.

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The original spelling of my last name is: LaTouche.

Thoughts:

• The VLS arrays flanking the turrets are going to be of very limited utility when the guns are not fore-and-aft.
• I'm not sold on the 14 CIWS mounts. I'd think that 4 Goalkeepers and 4 full RAM mounts would be enough. That would also free up some space in the center (maybe relocate some of the VLS there).
• You've got 20 8" guns, and then nothing between that and 30mm guns on the Goalkeepers. I'd limit the number of 8" Turrets, and add some 5" mounts.
• Right now, the radar situation is very confused. What was your goal (I ask so I can provide the best guidance possible)?

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Hi Timothy,

1. The VLS mounts port and starboard of the 20" Guns Were intended for ESSM use whil the guns were un employed
2. The vast aray of goalkeepers and Searams are to enable the ship to do one-on -ne with a carrier and it's airwing plus any cruiser missile the battle group might decide to launch at the same time a la the WWII Japanese Kamikaze attacks.
3. Good point but while designing I reckoned that the dual purpose role of the goalkeeper could fend off light boat attacks. (30mm is the smallest round to have a boost chage-- I believe.
4. Oh yes. The radars. I was trying to use the upcoming spy-3 and Missile Defense Radars (AMDR) , Both of which I can only guess at what they might look like so I made them pretty. I know, no excuse, but that is what I did.

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The original spelling of my last name is: LaTouche.

That's a lot of missiles, and the majority of your VLS space. My other concern about placement there is blast protection. Anyway, your ship.
Well, I'd honestly prefer to have something larger than the Goalkeeper to start engaging at further range - a 57mm mount is what I'd prefer for CIWS going forward.
I'd go with the full 21 round RAM launchers in place of SeaRAM if only to also have enough space for more RAMs, which also have surface mode, or even Javelins (which can fit in the Mk 49 launcher). The performance difference between having and not having on-mount cueing is going to be marginal, and the extra rounds will be much more helpful than the extra radars.
Ah, I was initially refering to the hodge-podge of directors that you are mounting (SPG-62s and SPG-55s). If you need a lot of gun-laying radars, I'd suggest replacing most of those with SPG-60s, or something similar. I'd also look into designing a phased array director - you can hand-wave it as an outgrowth of TPY-2 (the THAAD radar)

As for the radars you wished to use, This Burke Flight 3 has the AMDR, while this USN miscellaneous electronics sheet has the SPY-3 radars and the VSR. I would also consider moving toward a totally enclosed and phased-array solution.


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Also, we have a top-view of the V-22, and the side-view of the real V-22 AEW proposals:

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A very well drawn drawing even if the concept may not quite be as sound as some. I would think that smaller craft akin to the monitors or Coastal Defense Ships of the past would be more appropriate than a fully-fledged battleship in the modern age. Smaller units are cheaper generally, require less manpower and present less of a target.

That said, you seem to have been considering the feedback given which is a promising start. Hope to see this design develop further as I'm sure everyone's inner child loves behemoth ships.

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Unfortunately I have to agree with my peers - this design is way too far fetched to be considered appropriate. I probably wouldn't even retro fit it with more battleship appropriate weapons and electronics systems (eg. Iowas). That said, it is a real shame as you have obviously put in heaps of time doing this vessel and the level of detail you have included in it should be commended.

Please do not despair, you have the ability but just need to research a little more. Use the PM function on this forum. I have gained so much knowledge from my peers using PM.

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