Shipbucket

It's really a joy to see how nice the CoA's complement these excellent drawings Damn good work Garlicdesign

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Work in progress:
DD County Class PNS Babur (1982)(PAK)
FF Type 21 Class D182 PNS Babur (2000)(PAK)
All relevant Coat of Arms

Niiiiice!

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Jabba's Worklist

Love it. My favorite WWI ships, glad you started out with them, looking great. Keep it up.

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"All men dream, but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds wake in the day to find that it was vanity, but the dreamers of the day are dangerous men, for they may act their dreams with open eyes, to make it possible. This I did." Thomas Edward Lawrence, The Seven Pillars of Wisdom

Great work! Are you planning on drawing the Ostfriesland class as well?

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MS State Guard - 08 March 2014 - 28 January 2023

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Dear garlicdesign. I just read your comment on the flag question. Since I'm from Europe, and thus have experienced the surge of Neo-Nazism and radical rightwing groups, I understand your concern and will respect it, though I do not agree with your opinion about not using a historically significant emblem of a nation (the flag). It is sad that also the Imperial flag has been approbriated by these nasty, shady groups, but, if I'd agree with your view (which I do, however, respect!), the national flag of my home country, Sweden, would never have been able to be used, since, especially from the 1970s or maybe even earlier, this symbol was hijacked by Sweden's own right wing nutters. At one time (I believe this was mid-1980s!?) there was no flag on display in the Riksdag (the Swedish Parliament)! At school graduation we were banned from waving the flag (though it wa hoisted on a pole), since it could cause "sensibilities" among certain groups in society. Anyway, suffice to say, soon enough a popular movement started to reclaim what was theirs with full force, and now Swedes can be proud of their flag - again.
As for the German Imperial ensign, and its civilian flag, the black, red and white tricolor, that question and the answer remains much more controversial and difficult, I admit, but still there's a general consensus that, while largely imperfect, and, from the 1890s on a militaristic path, and with a general antisemitic sentiment within the populace, this was also largely true of all the major (and quite a few minor!) nations and empires of the day; not least France and Britain! Therefore, my own conclusion is that showing the German colors as they were from 1871-1919, is possible and not in conflict with either moral scruples or in violence of any national laws (which the display of the national colors of 1935-45 can be, especially in Germany itself!).
But, as I already stated at the beginning: I respect your disinclination of displaying them, but do not, I ask you, forbid members from adding them to their private copies, if they so desire. Whether they should or can be shown on a public, historic online orum, or in any publication (yes, they are that good, my friend, that, one day, someone might ask to use them in a publication!) I leave to legal experts and privat negotiations between requester and artist to be resolved.
But, in conclusion: absolutely marvelous cretions of surely one of the handsomest classes of men-o'-war ever built!

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My Avatar:Петр Алексеевич Безобразов (Petr Alekseevich Bezobrazov), Вице-адмирал , царская ВМФ России(1845-1906) - I sign my drawings as Ari Saarinen

Great drawings

Hello everyone!

Concerning the flag thing:

Of course I am in no position to forbid anyone to add anything - flags, pink ribbons around the barrels, nude women on the turret tops - to their private copies of my pics, and I certainly do not want to. All I ask is that no one publishes any picture that contains a drawing of mine and anything that can be interpreted as a neo-nazi sign in any country. As far as Germany is concerned, where I live and practice law (so I guess I more or less know what I'm talking of), this includes the imperial white ensign, which is - unlike the flag of Sweden, still being the official symbol of that country after all - permanently out of commission and not likely to be reclaimed by the people anytime soon. Although showing it is only illegal if it is used to promote right-wing ideology, which I have never ever observed on this forum (one of the reasons I like it so much), the fact remains that as soon as an image of mine has been modified with the imperial white ensign and published, anyone can download it and use it for whatever purpose he wants, which - however remote the chance for actual use by Neo-Nazis is - I would find quite embarassing, to say the least.

So, to rule out any misunderstandings: I do not approve anyone publishing or otherwise using any of my pics with the imperial german flag. Which is my official disclaimer. Now back to business, everyone.

Greetings
Garlicdesign

These drawings are great GD. Master pieces each and every one of them.

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Thank you Kim for the crest

"Never fear to try on something new. Remember that the Titanic was built by professionals, and the Ark by an amateur"

Superb work... don't know how I missed this thread....

Well done GD!

Garlicdesign, great work on DERFFLINGER, but you did not need to remove the 8.8cm casemates forward because she still had them at Jutland. The guns were removed.







These are photos of D right after Jutland.

Also, there were two different types of shields on the 8.8cm guns aft. This is visible in a starboard side phot of the ship after the battle. I am traveling and do not have access to my books or I would post it.