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WWII44
Post subject: Re: A little help with a drawingPosted: January 12th, 2014, 8:52 am
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Here is what I managed to do based on the images CraigH sent to me, I want your guy's take before proceading further.

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Post subject: Re: A little help with a drawingPosted: January 13th, 2014, 3:36 am
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looks a bit high in the water for the length, especially large "galleries'' on the stern also

compare to another similar sized ship:

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Post subject: Re: A little help with a drawingPosted: January 13th, 2014, 2:02 pm
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I shall have to work on it, but as of now I managed to get the bow to the way I wanted it so I probably wont be posting any more updates to her here, though if I have any other questions I be sure to ask in this thread.


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Post subject: Re: A little help with a drawingPosted: January 13th, 2014, 2:46 pm
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You bow is acceptable, but please notice that your style now resembles more the French than British; nothing wrong with that, but bear that in mind when drawing the rest of your ship. I do agree about the galleries. French styled ones were rather slimmer and had had curved back roofs on each deck level, creating a staggered appearance. However, I reserve comments about her depth and freeboard till I see the gun port layout.

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Post subject: Re: A little help with a drawingPosted: January 13th, 2014, 5:55 pm
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how would I make the bow more british?



Also how would I go about drawing this flag at SB scale:
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Post subject: Re: A little help with a drawingPosted: January 13th, 2014, 6:29 pm
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Easy, look at Rodondo's bow of the HMS Nelson! Make it deeper and more "meatier" for want of a better description. I didn't, however, say there was anything wrong with your bow-configuration. Keep it, but adapt a more appropriate French architectual style. In fact, your design may gain handsomely by doing just that!

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Post subject: Re: A little help with a drawingPosted: January 13th, 2014, 7:16 pm
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that's not the look I'm going for, and Rodondo's drawing while superb lacks some details that make it hard to determine the best way to draw the bow design I'm looking for, she is supposed to be based off of British Ships-of-the-Line.


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Post subject: Re: A little help with a drawingPosted: January 13th, 2014, 8:30 pm
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Yours is, is that what you're saying? Or do you refer to Rodondo's 1814 HMS Nelson? That was a real ship for sure... as for clarity issues, I can understand what you're referring to. However, there are plans online that you can easily search. Just try for instance to google "British three-decker 1780" and see what you'll get!

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Post subject: Re: A little help with a drawingPosted: January 14th, 2014, 8:09 pm
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Did a little more detailing on the bow and the stern gallaries as well as added the first row of guns. at this point I'm not going for any particular desing style(e.i British, French, Spainish, ect.) but doing something I find asthetically pleasing.

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Post subject: Re: A little help with a drawingPosted: January 14th, 2014, 9:02 pm
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Well, the prow is certainly looking good. However, delete the lower bow chaser port. Firstly, that position is almost physically impossible, due to the great curvature of the stem section abaft the stem post. Secondly, your hull is simply too short to accomodate 16 gunports on your main gun deck. As they are now configured you'll have an extremely busy gundeck, meaning cramped.
Also, I'd like less stern overhang, a slimmer, more raked stern-rudder post and the lowermost edge of your quarter galleries to be moved level with or just above the second gunwale (atop of the gunports).
Moreover, I wonder, are you attempting to draw a four-decker or? Right now your deck layout suggests that, and I can tell you that that won't work. You don't want to go the road of creating yet another "Balchen's Victory" here!
Where the heck did that splendid line-drawing of a Spanish (?) three-decker? It was lucid and instructive! You should've studied it some more, perhaps!

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