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It started out at long range, but it soon ended up at 10,000 yards. Her 14 inch thick armor belt meant that she could take a lot of hits without damage. Also, she was completely reconstructed in 5E150s to keep her up with moder tech, including new, more modern steel in her armor. She was basically a new ship after that, she could still take more than most modern ships because a lot of the features that made her special was kept, and/or remade to even better standards. Expensive, but worthwhile.

@ Vyrthur
- the main stack looks like an gas turbine stack.
- the aft stack is so close to the main stack that I think it would be better to put them together and just put an mast aft of it.
- the VSP's look tiny, especially considering this is an heavy armoured warship
- I have never seen this combination bow before, and I think there is an reason for it...... it does NOT bind together the benefits of both.
- why an 1980+ USN TACAN unit?
- I suppose the spheres are radars, but their placement, size and role is unclear to me. keep in mind that the sphere covered radars were of slightly later date and were build especially to protect the vulnerable electronics of the 1970's era radars.
- I miss traditional directors, like the Mk 56 or 68 directors of the USN. radars did not completely replace rotating (manned) directors until 1965, IIRC
explain more modern steel.

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The mack can be moved further aft. The two huge domes are air search radars and the smaller one is surface search. The domes are there to protect them from the extreme cold and weather, think antarctica. The ship is obviously not done, and will be finished at a later date.

By modern steel I mean just that. Steel is better 50 years later, especially with better techniques to make it even stronger, think STS.

for the funnels, check where your powerplants are. where are the boilers? the turbines? where are the bulkheads which the funnels may not penetrate? around this you can setup your funnel positions.
you know that if you replace 'regular' armour plating, being deadweight on the 'strength frame' of the ship by STS, you have effectively rebuild the entire ship? STS is part of the strength frame of the ship and thus the resistance against bending moments lessens a lot when you put it on, changing how the ship reshapes and react on impacts and pressures, which means you have to recalculate your entire construction and modify it on many points.
if you just hinge on STS to the outside of the ship replacing regular steel, it has exactly no benefits over regular steel of the same weight, as far as I can find. building an ship with this material has huge benefits though, but rebuilding one..... I don't see the point of that.

one of the greatest improvements on steel is the change to welding in the shipbuilding. this is one you cannot put in an rebuild, but it has large impacts on the constructions of new ships in about 1950.

I am not that familiar with radar systems of the 1950's, but even if I think the domes away your arrangement and size looks like nothing existing at the time to me.....

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I sincerely doubt that STS or any similar high strength steel is going to do better than the face hardened armour of the time.

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Here is a half finished design for an advanced class of AAW and ASW destroyer for the navy of Skyrim. Before I finished it up, I thought that I would get some comments on the basic design.

Yours CIWS seems "buried" too deep and the phased array radar is too low and small.
What is this curious gun at the bow? It seems unnatural, there are better AU guns around.

Otherwise, the ship is different from all these Alreigh Burk clones that appeared recently in AU scenarios.

Some more information would be nice.

• Right now there looks like an awful lot of vessel for not much oomph. The phased arrays could do with being elevated somewhat away from all that clutter.
• You could rake the bulwark slightly rather than having it completely flat
• If it were me I'd continue the knuckle and chine down a deck connect them both up.
• I'd probably bring the amidships area down by a deck or add roller doors / handling equipment to use under utilised space
• What sort of propulsion set-up are you looking at?

odysseus, we know that DDG-51 clones will work

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I am thinking of adding a mission specific module amidships, like AShW, littoral, SIGINT and the like. The set up for the phased arrays are based on that of the M-class replacement. Also, the phased arrays are bigger than you think, about 35 pixels long in total, keep in mind they are at a steep angle so as to not leave any holes in radar coverage. I could have all four arrays on the front, but increase the height by, say 20 pixels? That oomph will come when I add the missiles. There are currently 95 VLS tubes, on par with the AB. The ship is built so that extre VLS tubes can be added, the overall arnament can be customised based on mission, including the gun and CIWS`s. The ship is powered by four gas turbines for a top speed of 30 knots.

Edit: This is what I mean:

I have doubts about this hull going 35 knots. the length is about that of an DLG, maybe even up to CSGN, and she looks like she will be heavier. an displacement of 18000-21000 tons seems not too far fetched.....
keeping that in mind, getting that hull to 35 knots will take you at least 4 MT30 gas turbines, the biggest in their kind. your intakes are way too small for that.
but before you start adjusting intakes, I wonder this: why would you want to go 35 knots? there are currently no modern large western combatands that go faster then 31 knots apart from LCS IIRC. the LCS can do this because they have a lot of power for their size and because they have special hulls. for an regular hull, I would not go faster then the ship you need to escort (witch is why the burkes go 31 knots, carrier speed IIRC)

for the radars, the M frigate concept has no long decks in front of the radar, which block the view below the horizon. on your ship, on the forward and aft 90 degrees, you have. the previous setup was thus fine, as long as you heighten them a bit to lower their horizon.

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