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Yes,I known that all these here are actual designs, but some work fine and canclled due to politics, other were "paper models" and other would not work due to technical reasons.

Comments for what if British aircraft please here :
http://www.shipbucket.com/forums/viewto ... f=5&t=4154

Odysseus - all of these designs were technically possible (the triple fuselage one being the most problematic).

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I reffred to all designs of this thread,not only for the VC10.

Recent discussion abount British stand-off missile projects of the 1960s:
http://www.shipbucket.com/forums/viewto ... 65#p107765
inspired me to make this small project - British (domestic) alternatives to Skybolt.

Source: Chris Gibson & Tony Buttler, British Secret Projects. Hypersonics, Ramjets & Missiles, Hersham 2007, p. 114-117.

Despite commitment to Skybolt programme, British Air Ministry was aware of it's development problems and the risk of cancellation, therefore as insurance, the Air Staff drew up OR.1182 for a new stand-off weapon that was to be in service on V-bombers by 1966. Issued on 10th January 1961, OR.1182 called for a 1000nm (1852km) range, Mach 3 performance at high altitude, and high-speed (Mach 2) terrain-following at low level for the last 100nm (185km).

Avro drew up the W.140, capable of Mach 3 at 70000ft (21,336m) and Mach 1,5 at sea level. It was to be powered by a single Rolls-Royce RB.153 turbojet rated at 6850lb (30,5kN) thrust dry and 11645lb (51,8kN) with reheat. The Air Staff was unimpressed by the W.140, indicating that it was too slow both at altitude and at low level. Avro countered this by claiming that terrain-following flight was easier at Mach 1,5. However the most concern was voiced about the range, initially 580nm, which caused consternation, but this was later improved to 950nm.

Great Britain, Avro W.140


Bristol was very experienced in long-range high-speed flight, having developed the Blue Envoy SAM. The company had also had significant input into the propulsion systems of the OR.1149 and OR.1159 tenders and using this expertise it produced the X.12. Previously called Pandora, the X.12 was powered by BRJ.824 18in ramjet, the X.12 would have ben capable of Mach 3 at altitude and, with changes to airframe materials, Mach 4 if required. Its low-altitude performance would be in the region of Mach 2,8, which Bristol pointed out aided survivability no end, guided by a version of the Forward Looking Rada from TSR.2. Unfortunately X.12 was heavy at 15000lb (6840kg), which restricted the number of missiles the V-bombers could carry as well as reducing their range. The Vickers VC.10 transport could carry four X.12 as far as 1470nm, but Avro and Handley Page were working on variants of the Vulcan and Victor with increased all-up weights to meet the range and carriage requirement. However, even a Victor B.2 Stage 3 could only manage 755nm with four X.12 aboard.

Great Britain, Bristol X.12 Pandora


With full British participation in Skybolt, OR.1182 would not be required and so the latter was dropped in late 1961. However, on 19th December 1962 Skybolt was cancelled by Kennedy administration. Having already cancelled the Blue Streak and allowed OR.1182 to lapse, the British Government was left without a credible deterrent. No Skybolt meant there was a gap in strategic capability (pending arrival of Polaris SLBM's due to be in 1969) and this had to be filled.

Among the proposals made to fill this gap, BAC at Filton (formerly Bristol) put forward two: Grand Slam (unrelated to WW2 weapon) and Grand Slam II for the longer-range mission. The former was a 100nm range rocket-propelled toss bomb to be launched from TSR.2, while the Grand Slam II took the toss bomb and added extras. With a launch weight of 32000lb (14515kg) and a length of 50ft (15,2m), Grand Slam II could only be carried by the V-bombers. Its 1300nm range was achieved by flying at Mach 3 for the first 500nm at high altitude, descending to low level and Mach 2 for the next 700nm before pitching up to toss the Grand Slam onto the target from 100nm. Power for the weapon would be provided by an integrated BS.1013 ramjet fuelled by high-density/low-volatility fuel such as Shelldyne, then under development for high-speed ramjets.

Great Britain, Bristol (BAC) Grand Slam

Great stuff eswube!
This is wonderful work. Any chance of more of the other missiles shown on those pages? Or indeed some of those massive SAMs earlier in the book?

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Thanks Hood!
I'm not saying "no", but since I'm trying to draw (SB and FD) lots of other stuff as well, it wouldn't be all at once, ok?

Thanks a lot for designing those unknown missiles.I found some information yesterday, but no any photos or plans.

Awesome as always.

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Small, quick addition at Hood's request.

Source: Chris Gibson & Tony Buttler, British Secret Projects. Hypersonics, Ramjets & Missiles, Hersham 2007, p. 104-119.

Note: not for all of these missiles their actual length was given, so in some cases it had to be calculated through comparison

Already in early 1950s Air Ministry and Air Staff were seriously concerned about possible losses made to Bomber Command's aircraft by Soviet anti-aircraft artillery (and future missiles). Studies commissioned by the Air Ministry at the time showed that before the introduction of ballistic missiles (expected to happen around mid-1960s) the most practical way of reducing vulnerability of RAF's bombers to the Soviet AAA/SAM's was to arm them with stand-off weapons.

Beforementioned study assumed that up to 1960 Soviet air defences would be most effective at altitudes between 1000 and 40000ft (ca. 300-12000m), so until then V-bombers could safely fly at higher altitudes, but after around that date they would become vulnerable again, leaving the airspace up to 1000ft (305m) more or less immune from anti-aircraft fire due to the minimum range of SAMs, short warining times and slow tracking of AAA. The Air Staff sought to exploit by issuing a requirement OR.314/Spec. B.126T, for a low-level bomber, superseded in october 1953 by OR.324, which also laid out a need for a stand-off weapon to further increase the survivability of that bomber. This weapon, called Red Cat, was to meet a separate November 1953 requirement called OR.1125. Handley-Page and Bristol produced design studies for Red Cat, which was topossess a stand-off range of 20nm (37km). The aircraft and weapon were to be in service by 1962.
Handley-Page's Red Cat was to resemble a small, rotund swept-wing aircraft with normal fin and tail surfaces, power being powered by a rocket motor. It's carrier aircraft was to be HP.99 bomber.
Unfortunately the source book does not contain a picture of Bristol's Red Cat, but describes it as being carried semi-recessed but dorsally and raised prior to launch on hydraulic jacks (rationale was that, since the bomber was at low level, the weapon should go upwards).
Problems with development of reasonably efficient guidance system (at a time when Doppler navigation was still in it's infancy) coupled with other design issues meant that OR.324 was cancelled in 1954.

Great Britain, Handley-Page Red Cat


Next step in development of RAF's stand-off missiles was a series of designs done by RAE around mid 1950s and covered by OR.1132 (September 1954), that eventually led to real-life (and much troubled and delayed) Avro Blue Steel.

Mid 1950s intelligence reports about Soviet developments in SAM technology led Air Staff to came up in May 1956 with a new requirement for a stand-off weapon, designated OR.1149. This called for a range of 1000nm (1852km), with the last 100nm (185km) to be flown at low-level. Very ambitious and probably not achievable goal, not least because of problems with guidance (excessive gyro drift wich aerial inertial systems and infancy of Doppler systems).

First proposals for OR.1149 came from the RAE with series of design studies, A to D. All were to be launched from Vulcan and Victor, with Missile A having a conventional layout with an Olympus 21R providing the power. Missile B shared the configuration of the A, but with De Havilland Gyron Junior turbojets on each wingtip. The most interesting, and the study to which most effort appears to have been applied, was a twin DH Gyron Junior powered canard delta called the "1000-mile range flying bomb", that came in two versions: Missile C and D, both sharing the same basic airframe with 18ft (5,5m) wingspan, but of different length (46ft or 14m for Missile C and 50ft6in or 15,4m for Missile D which had increased fuel capacity).

Great Britain, RAE OR.1149 missile designs


Avro initially proposed increasing the fuel volume of Blue Steel, but this was considered unacceptable by the Air Staff, so they created several more sophisticated designs.
Gyron Junior-powered W.107 and Stentor rocket-powered W.109 were based on Avro's 1956 longer-ranegd Blue Steel delta proposal. Both types used highly swept delta wings.

Great Britain, Avro W.107


Great Britain, Avro W.109


Other Avro's designs were largely based on Blue Steel but with various new engine arrangements. Most promising of them, the Z.20 eventually became the W.112 with a stretched Blue Steel fuselage and two alternative engine arrangements. Eventually the project was taken over by English Electric and evolved into what they called the P.10D.

Great Britain, Avro W.112


Great Britain, English Electric P.10D


Vickers proposed to meet OR.1149 with a turborocket-powered weapon called the Type 569, but soon they discovered that turborockets (an engine whose low-speed thrust is produced by employing rocket-driven turbomachinery) lacked the power for acceleration while suffering from high specific fuel consumption, so eventually they were replaced for turbojets. The Type 569 was of convetional layout, with engines on the wingtips. Unfortunately, for centre of gravity reasons, it had to be loaded without fuel and then fuelled in flight from the carrier aircraft's tanks.

Great Britain, Vickers Type 569


Also the Handley-Page produced a design study for OR.1149, called the HP.106. It was novel in couple of ways - it had squat fuselage holding a pair of DH Gyron Junior turbojets fed by a chin intake, it used diesel fuel (becuase it produced greater range as a result of reduced boil-off at the higher temperatures experienced during the cruise) and to allow it to fit into V-bomber's weapons bays it had retractable nose cone.

Great Britain, Handley-Page HP.106


Eventually it become clear that of all these designs only P.10D and HP.106 had any chance of meeting the range requirements (and in turn they suffered from other issues), so by late 1957 emphasis had switched to an early service entry and ease of weapon carriage, leading to OR.1159 in May 1958 that had range requirement reduced to 600nm (1111km) and the low-level phase deleted, allowing also the new weapon to be based on Blue Steel. That eventually led to the Bule Steel Mk.2 design.

Further stages in the whole process were Skybolt and OR.1182 described before (Avro W.140, Bristol X.12/Pandora). Cancellation of these led to a gap in capabilities of British nuclear deterrent and to frantic search for remedies. Of the proposals put forward most were rather small and short-ranged weapons (except for Grand Slam II described before), that could be carried not only by the V-bombers, but also by Buccaneer and TSR.2.
Of these notable were BAC's small designs called commonly "One Club". One Club A and One Club B were essentially unguided WE-177A nuclear bombs with Raven rocket motor, and additionaly four Linnet III boosters and longer body for One Club B. Slightly larger One Club C was an air-launched Bloodhound SAM-turned-AGM.
De Havilland proposed two designs - Hatchet - short range (55nm or 102km) ALBM powered by Foxhound motor from Seaslug, and RG.17 of 19ft (5,8m) length and range of 120-200nm (222-370km). No drawings of these two are shown in my source.
Final (besides Grand Slam's) of that series of proposals were air-launched versions of ballistic missiles - US Polaris and Pershing (to be carried by V-bombers) and of Blue Water missile then under development for the British Army (and ultimately cancelled in 1962) to be carried by TSR.2 (then still under development).

Of these it was possible for me to draw One Club's and Blue Water, but One Club A and B would be rather small at this scale, and to draw One Club C (Bloodhound) and Blue Water it would be better to begin with drawing their "basic" (land based) versions, which is something I'm not prepared to do currently.

Is it me or the Avro W.109 looks like a paper aircraft? Just kidding. Nice work!

Any chance of seeing the British Thor or Blue Streak missiles in FD scale?

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