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Vossiej
Post subject: Re: WIP HMS HABBAKUKPosted: January 18th, 2011, 9:39 pm
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Incredibly work starting this one Alvama. But as other members said as well, she
does not really look like an ''ice-carrier'' yet. I remember seeing the Habakuk in
a Discovery documentary, where she mostly looked like a kind of wood, with metal
structures sticking out of it.

Anyway, good luck and I'm sure you'll make a beautiful draw out of it.

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Post subject: Re: WIP HMS HABBAKUKPosted: January 18th, 2011, 9:47 pm
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Also, even with the cooling system, it would still melt within a year.

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Post subject: Re: WIP HMS HABBAKUKPosted: January 19th, 2011, 7:49 am
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that's why they used pycrete.....but I don't know how good that would work

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Post subject: Re: WIP HMS HABBAKUKPosted: January 19th, 2011, 9:41 am
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Pycrete is very strong, but it melts only a little slower than normal ice.

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Post subject: Re: WIP HMS HABBAKUKPosted: January 19th, 2011, 9:42 am
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acelanceloet wrote:
that's why they used pycrete.....but I don't know how good that would work
The ship was planned with only pycrete.
Not plain ice, acelanceloet.

There where two test ships. Models of habbakruk from pycrete.
The first one sank pritty fast. And the 2nd one is still on the bodem somewhere (metal parts)

Colambikes first picture is fan art. Pure fake.
The ship could have been build. But the risk to spent millions on it for a year... Thats why it wasnt build.
Only the metal superstructure would have been painted(found it on the web for somebody his model)
The superstructure was to be metal.

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Post subject: Re: WIP HMS HABBAKUKPosted: January 19th, 2011, 9:49 am
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Mitchell, Habbakuk never got past initial planning, every single picture or drawing of it is "fake" as you say.

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Post subject: Re: WIP HMS HABBAKUKPosted: January 19th, 2011, 2:08 pm
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Thiel wrote:
Pycrete is very strong, but it melts only a little slower than normal ice.
really? then it is weird that it even lasts a year ;) or would that be when it was used only in the northern atlantic?

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Post subject: Re: WIP HMS HABBAKUKPosted: January 19th, 2011, 2:12 pm
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The Canadians did construct a small vessel out of pykrete as a, what's the word... concept demonstrator? It took three hot summers to melt it AFTER they turned off the cooling system. On the other hand, some of those de-bunking TV shows have attempted to do the same project but had their boats melt before they could even launch them. Go figure.


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ALVAMA
Post subject: Re: WIP HMS HABBAKUKPosted: January 19th, 2011, 3:10 pm
Still working on the ice effect, wait some days.


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Post subject: Re: WIP HMS HABBAKUKPosted: January 19th, 2011, 4:02 pm
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Thiel wrote:
Mitchell, Habbakuk never got past initial planning, every single picture or drawing of it is "fake" as you say.
But there where two smaller versions.
So that is actually ferther then planning...

Mythbusters made a speedboat of pycrete. Wich was succesfull for some smaller time...

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