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Post subject: Re: Republic of Amazonas AUPosted: December 12th, 2013, 4:41 am
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The seagoing capability of the Navy was further reinforced by the acquisition of USS Kaskaskia (AO-27), a Cimarron-class fleet oiler that was purchased from the US Navy in 1970. The ship recieved modernizations in 1984 that enhanced the ship's defense from enemies such as aircrafts and missiles. The ship, named "Bom Pastor" or Good Shepherd, continued to serve the Navy until she was decommissioned in 2006 and was replaced with newer replenishment ship.

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Post subject: Re: Republic of Amazonas AUPosted: December 12th, 2013, 4:53 am
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This AU is looking pretty good, its pretty realistic and well thought out, but a few thoughts: the N.M. Cacador currently has no placer to hanger and stow the seaplanes and Sopwith Tabloids are outdated for world war two. The Type 14 upgrades is probably overloading the hull since you are adding exocet, Seacat, and a 76mm gun without removing any as built weaponry or electronics. I would recommend at least removing the Limbo to free up weight for the added weaponry. On the Cimarron I would recommend removing the 76mm guns for seacats as well

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Post subject: Re: Republic of Amazonas AUPosted: December 12th, 2013, 5:34 am
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Thanks Trojan!!!!

Meanwhile, N.M. Cacador's stern equipments and armaments were removed to have a free deck for the seaplanes..And yes, the Sopwith Tabloids were outdated and the 4 units that UK donated were obsolete, but they were only used in patrols and not in direct combat against surface vessels (excluding submarines). I used the Sopwiths to indicate that the Navy is still insufficient that years and that age is it's era of stagnation, and the Navy is only capable of operating obsolete ones.....

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Post subject: Re: Republic of Amazonas AUPosted: December 12th, 2013, 5:45 am
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In 1980s, the Navy looked for new destroyers to will replace the old destroyers in the Amazon Navy that were transferred from the Royal Navy in the 1950s and 1960s. In 1984, the Navy acquired it's first full-hybrid guided missile destroyers from Great Britain, the ex-HMS Devonshire, ex-HMS Hampshire, ex-HMS London, and ex-HMS Fife. The ships recieved extensive modernizations that replaced their former radars and armaments since their electronics and missiles were considered not able to stand in a modern battlefield. The ships were named on the cities on the Sudoeste State of Amazonas.

In 2008, the ships were decommissioned in favor of newer destroyers and because the Seaslug SAM was phased out of production and the Navy lacks spares for it.

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Post subject: Re: Republic of Amazonas AUPosted: December 12th, 2013, 8:49 am
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* the carrier:
- I see dutch targeting and search radars but british seacat control radars. wouldn't it be sensible to have all british or all dutch ones? also, one seacat missile seems very little for such a large ship, maybe replace one, 2 or 3 of the small guns with sea cat missiles?

* the alvaeres class:
- it looks good, the only thing I would ask for is check for updates on the parts. most notably here, the gun https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/632 ... V%20v2.png, the exocet launcher and the seacat.
- what are those mortar thingies on the stern? if it has any deck penetration, the rudder machinery is in the way there.

*Baiao:
- what interests me is yet another set of directors. maybe an idea to standardise?
- the WM is an outdated part, in addition to the ones mentioned earlier.
- she looks a bit stern heavy
- I think the radar on top of the foremast and the WM egg have a bit duplicated roles. correct me if I am wrong. also, the egg and the seacat differ a bit in age, if you can install it you MIGHT want to go for seawolf already.
- it should be possible to guide seacat with the WM as well, as it's direction antenna is the same as that of the M44. in other words, you could use it as the main FCS on the ship.

*sudoeste:
- sea dart won't fit. the entire county class is designed around the sea slug missile system, which is horizontally loaded. sea dart is vertically loaded (check the belowdeck parts thread)
- the sea wolf seem extremely hard to reload in that position. also, the county has an hangar which cannot be used anymore because it is I think penetrated by the sea dart director and also blocked by the sea wolf launcher at the other side.
- when fitting phalanx, I would suggest placing them an echelon, one where you have them now and one mroe forward on the other side. this way you have no area blocked by the boats, and leave only the area blocked by the superstructure.
- outdated parts are the main gun, wasp helicopter and I think the exocet launcher.

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Post subject: Re: Republic of Amazonas AUPosted: December 12th, 2013, 9:07 am
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thanks ace...i'll be doing it rightafter..

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Post subject: Re: Republic of Amazonas AUPosted: December 12th, 2013, 9:40 am
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Thanks ace for help!!!I really appreciate it!!!

Meanwhile, i removed the 25mm chaingun on the Baiao class because the gunner might be "fried" because of 2 missile launchers surrounding it...haha

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Post subject: Re: Republic of Amazonas AUPosted: December 12th, 2013, 9:50 am
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The Navy acquired it's first submarine in 1979, a Type 209 attack submarine ordered from Germany. The acquisition of the ship increased the Navy's capability in anti-submarine and anti-surface warfare and submarine deterrence. 4 units were delivered from 1979-1982.

In 2004, prior to the Navy's Attack Submarine eXperimental project, the submarines were laid up and were formally decommissioned in 2006. One vessel, N.M. Anaconda, was laid up in Braganca Naval Museum, while the other three were transferred to the Philippine Navy in a token price of $28.9 billion each.

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Post subject: Re: Republic of Amazonas AUPosted: December 12th, 2013, 9:49 pm
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ikara won't fit on the county mod as well, (look at the magazine size in the belowdeck parts thread)
on the carrier, I think it would be better to put seacat on sponsons instead of all on the island, if possible.
I also have redrawn the M44 directors but they are not yet on the parts sheet, only posted in the thread. you can find them here https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/632 ... M44_45.png keep an eye on the fact that you will want one director per launcher at least.
it might be an idea to go for more dutch radars then just on the carrier, the indians for example did this on most of their ships. you have now 3 types of directors for seacat and guns, you might be able to limit it to just 2 if you swap some for M44/ M45 fire control systems.

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Post subject: Re: Republic of Amazonas AUPosted: December 15th, 2013, 1:11 pm
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Something that no one has noticed is the wrong Exocet launcher n Type 14M frigate.These launchers fire dead ahead,so you need to use angled Exoxet launchers in that stern position.Otherwise,plausible conversion.


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