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odysseus1980
Post subject: Re: Hellenian KingdomPosted: October 22nd, 2013, 7:58 am
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Now, real Olympic Airways had Douglas DC-6B,10 purchased from UTA and three more were leased for some period.OA flied the DC-6B from 1958 to 1972.But what else could have purchased instead?

OA (AU) had several DC-4 in late 1950's and of course the DC-3.
The aircraft would have about 95-120 seats,turboprop and equivalent with DC-6B in range.A small contest in other words.


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Post subject: Re: Hellenian KingdomPosted: October 22nd, 2013, 2:02 pm
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Lockheed Constellation (non-turboprop) is the first thing that comes to mind, followed by French Breguet Sahara/Provence. Of the turboprops - basically I think only Bristol Britannia was ready for commercial service by 1958.


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Post subject: Re: Hellenian KingdomPosted: October 22nd, 2013, 4:29 pm
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The Britannia also matches with Comet 4 (which both real and AU Olympic Airways had) and the Vickers VC10 posted above.It enetred service in 1957 with BOAC and was on production at 1958,so OA AU ordered 10 Bristol Brtiannia (Type 304).They were replaced with Boeing 737-284 in 1973-1975.Last passenger flight for OA Britannia was in January 1976.In 1973 4 airframes passed to Olympic Cargo after modified to freighters and continued to fly until mid 1980's.

The OA Britannia had a capacity of 108 passengres in two classes and modified to "high density" layout in 1967-1968.


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Post subject: Re: Hellenian KingdomPosted: October 22nd, 2013, 6:15 pm
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Glad to see my VC.10s in use.

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Post subject: Re: Hellenian KingdomPosted: October 28th, 2013, 4:08 pm
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RHN Helicopter Command

All helicopters used by the Royal Hellenic Navy from mid 1960's until present.

The Royal Hellenic Navy Aviation School is located near Marathon in Attki and there are 3 main helicopter bases in Aegean and East Mediterranean, while occasionally civilian islandic airports are also used. An RHN helicopter pilot starts with Alouette III, educated to fly it and in all naval warfare tactics and then passes to AB212A2. Final stage is the Aegean Puma, which is much more complicated of the AB212 and requires experience and at least 600 flight hours with AB212. The Alouette III also trains the supporting air crew of RHN naval units on the Training Ship of Royal Hellenic Navy Academy RHS Aris, which was designed with helipad and hangar for one Alouette III or one HC-270 among with sonar and various simulation systems.


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Post subject: Re: Hellenian KingdomPosted: November 10th, 2013, 4:03 am
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HCM-270 Chimera is a first generation indigenous cruise missile developed from HDSO in 1980's.It appeared as a mock-up in Defensys Exchibition in 1992, where also a video from its test launches were shown.The missile uses a vastly modified Adis I frame with complemtely different electronics (except the altimeter), folding fins similar with Tomahawk and the engine from SSM-65. Chimera can used several warheads, such as thermobaric, sub-amunition, high explosive and cluster, however its weight is classified. Range is about 270nm,500km for Chimera I (HCM-270A) and 405nm (750km) for Chimera II (HCM-270B). The missile was claimed "operational" in 1994 and 2006 for its two variants. Since it was designed to be combatible with Adis I canisters, Chimera can be also used from Adis I coastal battalions. Also an air-launcher Chimera is in service, developed together with the surface variant. Every RHAF aircraft capable of holding a 1200kg weapon can carry it, since Chimera is an fire and forget missile. With that range, Chimera gave sub-strategic strike capability to Hellenic Kingdom and led to more advanced designs, such as the HCM-300 Echidna, which will be tested into 2014, a stealth vertical launched or air launched cruise missile.VLS variant will be launched from new Als-130 Class frigates,perhaps a land-based variant will be developed.
Also a sub-launched Chimera is on development.

Not many details are revealed for Chimera,but I can say these:

HCM stands for "Hellenic Cruise Missile"
Dimensions:6.2m X 2.8m (length X wingspan)
Weight:1200kg (ready to launch)
Warhead: thermobaric, sub-amunition, high explosive,cluster
Propulsion: Aerodyne R-25 solid booster (surface variant only), turbojet J09-AD-68, 690lbf thrust (HCM-270A)
Aerodyne R-25 solid booster (surface variant only),turfofan TF09-AD-70,720lbf thrust (HCM-270B)
Range : HCM-270A 500km (Surface),~800km (Air)
HCM-270B 750km (Surface),>1000km (Air)
Launch platforms:(Surface) Lysandros and Orion Class Cruisers,FFG Konon Mk2B/Mk3B (ASuW),FAC EOKA Class,Coastal Battalions of Adis I
(Air) Mirage IV,P6M Seamaster,Mirage 2000,Su-35Γ (in future,HCM-270A2/B2)

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Post subject: Re: Hellenian KingdomPosted: November 17th, 2013, 8:58 am
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Some Auxiliary ships now.This design was based on Vidar Viking,with some changes.

In Hellenic Kingdom there are several sea based oil rigs,mainly in Ionian Sea since late 1980's and in previous decade start to appear in Aegean.Government claimed 12 miles of territorial waters in Aegean and Ionian Sea together with Exclusive Economic Zone in June 1986 following all legal procedures.They also designed two areas where Turkish Navy can use as firing test field and said Turks to notice when use for reroute commercial traffic from these areas.

Oil research in Hellenic Kingdom started back at early 1960's with Canadian,French and later Norwegian assistance.First oil rig (Ionis I) appeared in 1988 southeast of Kerkyra and by 2000 another three built.Also there is another one in North Aegean since 1977,in near Thasos (only this is real). Together several other projects were started in after 1973 Oil Crisis for reducing oil daily consumption while gradually increasing production to eliminate oil imports.The target for self-sufficiency in oil of Hellenic Kingdom was reached finally in 2001. According to Hellenic Petroleum, total oil quantity of Hellenic Kingdom is about 5.5-6 billion barrels, enough until 2035-2040. Note that the effort for reducing oil consumption is still going on, actually never stopped.

For supervising the oil project a new state service was created under Ministry of Enviroment and Natural Resources/Secretariat for Mining and a new state-own company for production.I have not decide for the name of this company yet,so I "borrowed" a company for real Greece.

To support oil exploration and mining several supporting ships were needed.The older ones purchased from USA and Canada,while newer supporting ships are home-built with Norwegian assistance and later indigenous designs.

All oil rigs feature sonar for underwater protection, this sonar was co-developed with Konsberg with funding from Hellenic Oil Company and is also used for underwater protection of RHN and Cuprus Navy bases. Hellenic Coastguard has also a special anti-terrorist exercise on oil rigs.

For these two desings I am not sure for the first one,if this hull can support submarine rescue operations,but the second is more plausible.

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Post subject: Re: Hellenian KingdomPosted: November 17th, 2013, 9:21 am
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Interesting additions. :)


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Post subject: Re: Hellenian KingdomPosted: November 17th, 2013, 8:07 pm
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This really is a quality AU. Keep it up!

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Post subject: Re: Hellenian KingdomPosted: November 21st, 2013, 6:57 am
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Structure of Royal Hellenic Navy (AU)-revised

*Cruisers and Destroyers Command:Orion Class LHC, Lysandros Class CGHs,Kimon Class DDGs ,the EWS Hermes and Arethousa Class LSS.

*Frigates and Corvettes Command : All Elli Class FFG (ASW,ASuW,AAW),FS Lygeas Class, Prometheus Class LSS

*Fast Patrol Boats Command : All missile boats,All Gunboats (HSY-56/56A Class) and all OPV HSY-82 Class and 2 Aliakmon Class LSS

*Amphibious Ships Command : All landing ships and landing hovercrafts, most of the A-16/A-18/A-20 fleet and the A-38M (latter belong to Black Sea Navy Command)

*Submarine Command : 16 submarines (4 Glafkos/Zwaardvis Neptune I,6 Poseidon/Zwaardvis Neptune Neptune II,6 Papanikolis/Scorpene-HL). 2 Glafkos Class Submarines transferred to Black Sea Navy Command and 2 more under control of Cypriot Navy. The latter are still belong to RHN, but manned and maintained by Cypriot complement and based in Pervoli Naval Base** in Cyprus near Larnaka.

*Mine Warfare Command : All Minewafare ships

*Naval Aviation Command : All aeroplanes and helicopters of RHN which are : 16 P6M-2 Seamaster, 8 P-3H Orion-M, 38-40 Mirage F1CGM equipped with AM-39/ASM-50 missiles (2 squadrons, 390th and 392th), 36 AB212A2 ASW/ASuW/EW , 24 AS-332F1H (known as Aegean Puma) capable for ASuW/ASW/EW/SAR missions and 14 HC-50 UAV helicopters. On order 16 HC-60 UAV.

*Auxilliary Ships Command : RHN does not use the term "AOR", uses "LSS" instead, meaning Logistic Support Ship. 8 in service total, 4 Type701 Luneburg/Aliakmon Class (2 belong to Black Sea Navy Command) ,2 Etna/Prometheus ,2 Arethousa Class, 1 Submarine Rescue Ship, 1 Submarine Tender (variant of Aris) , tugs, floating docks and cranes, 7 water tankers, 1 Floating Workshop (specialy equipped for repairs), 4 Coastal Torpedo Recovery Ships of which 2 are ex-German Type430 Klasse and 2 are conversions from Vasiliades Class PCs (2 more in service with Black Sea Navy Command,one each type).

*Hydrographic Service Command : 4 Open Sea Survey Ships, 4 Survey Launches

*Naval Tactical Training School Command : 6 AS-319 Allouette helicopters,1 Sailing Ship (Eugenios Eugenides), 1 Training Ship Aris Class (equipped with helipad and hangar for 1 AS-319).

*Coastal Defense Command : Includes more than 100 vessels from 9m to 58m (among them several A-18M/A-20,4 SES-58,the Klasse 145A (equipped with Penguin Missiles), the remaining HSY-44M Class FAC equipped with MM-38/SSM-50A/Adis IV-S/SSM-10 missiles,several other vessels with the task to attack LCM/LCU/LCT (Esterel 32L,Protector 31&33),special vessels for Seals etc. Only one third of these are in regular service, rest on reserve for use at wartime.

*Special Operations Ships Command : 2 LCS Agamemnon Mk2 Class, 4 SOC Vasiliades Class, 6 midget submarines G-Type Class,several other smaller Special Operation Crafts

*Black Sea Navy Command (based in Messimvria Naval Base).

Note: The EWS Hermes Class based on Konon Mk3 hull and can act alone or in cooperation with other naval units. One in Aegean/East Meditteranean and one in Black Sea.

**Pervoli Naval Base belongs to RHN and opened in 1983. It is the sole naval base of Royal Hellenic Navy outside the Kingdom, features also aviation facilities and docks enough for 200m naval units.


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