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Great work!

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Great work!

It's a case of playing with colors in MS Paint. The idea:
1) use colors that appear less than 1 pixel wide. Most rigging is less than 6" diameter.
2) Stitching and panels on sails at SB scale viewing distances would be all but invisible but there would be some "hinted at" texturing. I look for colors that are related to whatever the background color is and is just barely visible. I also do what scale modelers do and give a little more contrast than reality dictates.

Ratlines suck...period. I use as few lines as I think I can get away with but feels complete. Up near the top I end lines short so it doesn't obliterate the mast. Also, I won't use black! Grays only and "Damned the torpedoes (SB rules)".

Skip the topmost masting ratlines too. They are what?...2"-4" diameter or so. That's 1/3 of a pixel. It's not worth destroying the masting and yards. Our minds fill in the missing detail.

Go for it and try a small wooden ship. It's a good challenge.

CraigH

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There has been an absurd amount of this (dumb) sentiment floating around on this board lately...

For one, the SB rules don't say "you must draw ratlines in black" - they are, essentially, just other parts of rigging - and as such can be shown in the medium grey color used for railings. I chose to draw them in a very dark grey on the Constitution because they were tarred lines - and as such appear black in real life.

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Somebody gave me the impression on another thread a few weeks or a month ago that stuff that bears weight (aka people, etc.) needs to be black or outlined with black. Also, most of the ratlines I've seen around here are pretty dark so, being a newby I've got to assume there's another rule or convention not clearly posted.

If I'm out of line, apologies. Could be I just stuck that torpedo in my mouth.

CraigH

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the rules are this:
- decks which bear weight must be 3 pixel thick (on most ships, these are actually 3 pixels in our scale, so for clarity this is an good rule)
- everything that is solid needs to be outlined in black (hull, superstructure, flagpole etc) 1 pixel lines for poles and masts are allowed, 2 pixel lines are frowned upon but allowed if neccesary (they give black blobs)
- this results in sometimes over or understating of details

ratlines, rigging etc is all up to the artist. look for example at my favorite sailing ship drawing I myself did (others have made nicer looking ones already, every time a new one gets drawn somebody finds new ways to make it look better) http://www.shipbucket.com/images.php?di ... 0Irene.png
on this drawing, all standing rigging is included but very little of the running rigging because I chose to draw her without sails attached.

so all in all, I think you are perfectly within the rules, I only look a bit worried at the upper mast parts which look very dark due to 2 pixel lines. that, I think, is the only concern here, but I doubt it would be an real problem for uploading (I am not the one who decides any of that though, so all I said above may not be exactly the rules kept.

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Thank you for the linework rules!

Regarding the mast tops (and yard ends), those have been driving me nuts too. They worked on my Wampanoag and "tapered" convincingly as there was significant "rake" to the masts. Not so with the Wasp. I also tried a single pixel line but abandoned that. In this case a black and a medium gray may work but as I understand the rules...

That torpedo... Crunchy with a hell of a bite. CraigH

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Honestly there's nothing wrong with the drawing at all, I'm just getting a little confused by all the constant "I'm breaking the strict SB rules" comments being made. They aren't that strict and they're pretty well defined (for modern ships I grant you), and on top of that Shipbucket provides the artist with a slew of pre-drawn parts so I don't really get why complaints are being made about the style being "restrictive". If you don't want to draw in a "restrictive" style, go make your own style up! It's as simple as that!

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I was for leeway for Garlicdesign's tumblehome shading that we had not really experienced in SB before.
I'm for leeway with CraigH's sails and rigging. We've not had many sail ships before and these look really good so I don't think there are any problems there. I leave the riggings experts to define what they see as a good standard whilst keeping in spirit with the intent of SB scale as far as possible.

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Right now she looks good enough to upload.

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