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This should take care of most of the problems of the above design.

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no, again no. the gun can be placed over there (the ammo storage is underneath it, but it is quite large, the entire deckhouse is filled with it) , but you have even increased the top weight, the SEARAM can't turn over there and it has an very limited firing angle, and the VLS wont'fit over there, because you still have pierced a lot of space which is needed.
and you are still using an outdated drawing.

if you want these weapons on board, you have to redesign the ship, by lengthening it (by 30 m or so), reinforce the entire ship, putting an more powerfull engine on board........ done? now you see, you have made an frigate of it! but you didn't needed an frigate.......

the closest to your requirements would be the american lcs, if you want to have an opv you could just use the normal holland class, with weapon MODIFICATIONS instead of additions, as I said in the previous posts.

and I know what I am talking about, I have an very good knowledge of this ship because of my work on this: http://acelanceloet.deviantart.com/gallery/#/d2ytnhg

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You think ACE?
You can modify your ammo storage to any size.
This one has a small one for sure.
I have been on it, and its uber uber uber small!
Its smaller then an alkmaar class (You can see that in SB drawings to)

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ok, that's true, but that doesn't mean you can put an BLOODY VLS just behind it. and it is not an good idea to give an oceangoing warship the magazine size of an coastal FAC..... it is possible indeed, but I would prefer more bullets on board above that VLS. you have brought me on an idea though....

@ spambot: I will work on the holland a bit to give it better air defence for service in my AU..... so maybe you can use that one. it might take some time before I finish it, though.

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I agree even with this configuration, it is drifting more into the area of Frigate than Gunboat/OPV. One idea I'm still playing with is completing the last of the FREMMs as gunboats rather than normal FFGs with downgraded systems from the APAR/Smart-L vessels currently being procured. Another idea possibly along those lines is a modernized OHP type vessel, which makes great OPV/gunboat. If mine weren't approaching 30 years old, then there would be little need for anything else. Much food for thought....

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If it's close enough to cast a shadow, I think the flying house wins initiative.

Bronies are like the Forsworn. Everyone agrees that they are a problem but nobody wants to expend the energy rooting them out.

"That is a very graphic analogy which aids understanding wonderfully while being, strictly speaking, wrong in every possible way."

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This is my impression of what the above mentioned vessel would look like, rather much like the base Cybele Klasse on the outside, but with less complicated systems, in place of the APAR/SMART-L combo, as this isn't an AAW platform. Otherwise there are internal differences, such as diesel cruising engines, and a layout more geared towards endurance and accomodation. This design works out better in many regards, especially operating in a conflict zone, in case that semi-literate third world jet jockey decides you look like an enemy vessel, or his thuggish bosses decide you *are* an enemy vessel.

The forward gun is my take on a modernized, updated TAK-120.

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We can't stop here--this is Bat country!

If it's close enough to cast a shadow, I think the flying house wins initiative.

Bronies are like the Forsworn. Everyone agrees that they are a problem but nobody wants to expend the energy rooting them out.

"That is a very graphic analogy which aids understanding wonderfully while being, strictly speaking, wrong in every possible way."

use the new oto 76 stealth..... and may I ask why it is so much better in conflict zones? it looks like an normal frigate, apart from the fact it is light in the missile arnament and heavy in the amount of guns.

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You aren't Dutch? Kanoneerboot.. That means Gunboat you know..

It is better in a conflict zone because it has much better self defence capability in the form of ESSM, and more CIWS with the RAM and heavy gun armament.
The design is for my AU, Pallamara whose national language is Dutch. Yes, I know that Kanonneerboot is gunboat in Dutch. With its heavy gun armament, and light missile armament, the Pallamarans don't quite consider it a full fledged frigate, even though it's based off a frigate hull. Also, its mission of distant patrol off troubled areas like Somalia, hearkens back to the old gunboat role, hence the designation. Conceptually, I was inspired by the German navy that does much the same thing with their F-125(?) frigates, but with Pallamara, they have the FREMM design in production so it was more cost effective to modify one of those hulls since they have up to six more planned whose future was in question.

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We can't stop here--this is Bat country!

If it's close enough to cast a shadow, I think the flying house wins initiative.

Bronies are like the Forsworn. Everyone agrees that they are a problem but nobody wants to expend the energy rooting them out.

"That is a very graphic analogy which aids understanding wonderfully while being, strictly speaking, wrong in every possible way."

I'd go for a Thetis class OPV with increased aviation facilities.
Their cruising speed is just a tad higher than most merchant ships, they've got the speed and endurance for prolonged patrols, they are cheap to operate, got enough speed to run down most skiffs and plenty firepower for the job.

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