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Author:  Rhade [ October 19th, 2011, 6:39 pm ]
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We have among us many ex and actual soldiers. Also many people here owns big knowlage about military. So my question, particularly to our brothers in arms, what they think about Belltower soliders concept in Deus Ex: Human Revolution. I know that this is only a game but for me they look rather reliable. I want use that concept in my AU. And for me AU is something serious.

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Author:  Navybrat85 [ October 19th, 2011, 6:45 pm ]
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Is that full-body ballistic protection?
Author:  Rhade [ October 19th, 2011, 6:51 pm ]
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I'm sure about vest, shoulder ( hard protection ) and some kind of soft protection under it and on thigh.
Author:  Thiel [ October 19th, 2011, 7:41 pm ]
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I'm not so sure about it. The helmet seems to restrict vision and provide less protection than a standard one.
The cheek-pads doesn't make much sense to me either. I doubt they'll help much if you're hit and the way they interlock with the collar suggests to me that they'll interfere with head movement. Reminds me of a stock really.
Similarly, unless the upper arm protector is a lot more flexible than it looks the it's going to interfere with arm movement. In fact, I doubt he'll be able to raise his arms out to the sides.
The vest itself looks okay, but I question what looks like ammo pouches on the shoulders. As any hiker will tell you, carrying weight is a great way to tire quickly. If it's possible, you want to carry any weight with your hips. That's why (as far as I'm aware) all tactical harnesses are designed to do just that. Another advantage of carrying your stuff down there is that you can get to all of it with either hand.
The leg and knee protectors looks okay, though I would have included a strap that goes over the shoulder to keep it from ending up around your angles. Anyone who has ever had to run around with a tool belt that doesn't have one can tell you how annoying that is.
The hiking shoes are cute, but I would prefer boots. They protect your ankles and lets you squelch around in mud without getting your feet wet.
Author:  Rhade [ October 19th, 2011, 8:13 pm ]
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Thiel wrote:
I'm not so sure about it. The helmet seems to restrict vision and provide less protection than a standard one.
The cheek-pads doesn't make much sense to me either. I doubt they'll help much if you're hit and the way they interlock with the collar suggests to me that they'll interfere with head movement. Reminds me of a stock really.
About restrict vision, you right. Helmet is design to integrated with some kind of facial armor. But maybe if we cut some material from sides we achieve better field of vision. Overall this helmet may be some kind of evolved Stahlhelm modification. Cheek-pads would be useful in harsh weather or winter. Helmet and cheek-pads are not connected with collar.
Thiel wrote:
Similarly, unless the upper arm protector is a lot more flexible than it looks the it's going to interfere with arm movement. In fact, I doubt he'll be able to raise his arms out to the sides.
Yes, they are a pretty flexible. Soldier will not be able to rise his arms open above head, new meaning to Never Surrender! :D
Thiel wrote:
The vest itself looks okay, but I question what looks like ammo pouches on the shoulders.
Frankly speaking I have no idea what is that thing. Maybe some kind of pouches but I'm sure not for ammo.
Thiel wrote:
The hiking shoes are cute, but I would prefer boots. They protect your ankles and lets you squelch around in mud without getting your feet wet.
Yeah, they are PMC with adidas on their feet. :D You right, good military grade boots are priceless.

Also I was thinking abut some kind of shin protection.

Anyway, thank you Thiel for this evaluation, I appreciate your opinion.
Author:  APDAF [ October 19th, 2011, 9:31 pm ]
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Go for something like the IG uniform.
Author:  Rhade [ October 19th, 2011, 9:41 pm ]
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What ? Imperial Guard ? What regiment ?

And standard for IG trooper is just helmet and flak jacket.
Author:  APDAF [ October 19th, 2011, 9:46 pm ]
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The Cadian Shock troopers are the first one that comes to mind.
Author:  Rhade [ October 19th, 2011, 9:49 pm ]
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Anything more realistic ?
Author:  APDAF [ October 19th, 2011, 9:52 pm ]
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The Elysian Drop Troops?
Death Korps of Krieg?
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