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Blackbuck
Post subject: Re: Some questions about Ships and WeaponsPosted: January 6th, 2015, 10:48 am
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Other than retaining the £ as the single most powerful currency on the planet there's little justifiable reason for us not to be more European, it's just the uneducated silent majority believe whatever the spin doctors say to them about how evil and corrupt Europe is...

And as mentioned people will sell you anything within reason. Plus seeing as it's not exactly an F-16 or similar I don't see any reason why Turkey would object to the deal.

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Post subject: Re: Some questions about Ships and WeaponsPosted: January 6th, 2015, 10:50 am
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That doesn't in anyway answer my question though.
Why is it a problem that Turkey and Greece uses the same type of aircraft?
Especially if Turkey have real way of forcing CASA to stop supporting you.

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Post subject: Re: Some questions about Ships and WeaponsPosted: January 8th, 2015, 1:55 pm
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Any such problem as above is unpossible, so the C-295 is the platform I will use. With 38 airframs total (26 for RHAF, 8 for HCG plus 10 for Cyprus AU) my AU is more important customer for CASA from TN.


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Post subject: Re: Some questions about Ships and WeaponsPosted: January 9th, 2015, 4:40 pm
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Since some fixed wing aircraft ( P-2 Neptune, Alize, Nimrod etc) were fitted with AS.12 missile, could this fitted on Avro Shakleton MR.3 III? For some of Royal Hellenic Naval Aviation aiframes. Torpedoes were Mk44, right? And standard British depth charges/mines.


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Post subject: Re: Some questions about Ships and WeaponsPosted: January 9th, 2015, 4:56 pm
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Given the almost inconsequential impact both weight and system integration wise of course AS.12 could be integrated. Torpedoes were indeed Mk.44s and I believe earlier were Mk.30s.

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Post subject: Re: Some questions about Ships and WeaponsPosted: January 9th, 2015, 5:09 pm
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AS.12 in bombay obviously. For torpedos yes, Mk30 and Mk44 like RAF. Timeline for the Shakleton in my AU is from 1956-1988, replaced by P-3 Orion.

I looked on a model of Shacketon MR3 and seems that there is space for a fourth torpedo, but all sources say three.


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Post subject: Re: Some questions about Ships and WeaponsPosted: January 9th, 2015, 5:38 pm
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The bomb bay would be a bad idea. The thing is wire-guided meaning you're going to be flying around with your doors open from launch until impact which is kinda draggy. Your best bet is to look at the outer wing panels and see how many you could feasibly hang from there.

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Post subject: Re: Some questions about Ships and WeaponsPosted: January 9th, 2015, 9:23 pm
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Any other choices? Bullpup followed by its hellenic derivative, the ASM-20 (in real world Hellas had a quantity of Bullpup and several F-104G wired for it), so perhaps this mod could be done instead the AS.12. I prefer to intergrate the latter to my HC-120 helicopters and in a land platform instead having it to a fixed wing aircraft. The ASM-24 (another of my AU missiles) is TV guided (like AJ168 and Maverick).

12 Shakleton (same number with real Albatros) plus several more for spares in 1970's, when the type withdrawn from RAF to retain my operational fleet. 5-6 were modified for carrying missiles.


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Post subject: Re: Some questions about Ships and WeaponsPosted: January 9th, 2015, 9:52 pm
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Bullpup *could* work. Not 100% sure though.

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Post subject: Re: Some questions about Ships and WeaponsPosted: January 10th, 2015, 3:48 pm
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Wikipedia in AS332 Super Puma information has an "AS332B" with AM-39 Exocet missiles photographed in 1981 Paris Air Show . Could an AS/ASW Super Puma ( navalised) attained in 1982-83?

Then would follow SAR variant ( for HCG) and transport variant for Army Aviation (Cougar) and CSAR for RHAF.

Missiles could wait until late 1980's.


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