How's this?
![[ img ]](https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/93700641/Hale%20and%20HAe/HAe%20Tempest%20with%20IFR%20probe.png)
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| Author: | odysseus1980 [ December 17th, 2014, 7:20 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Commonwealth of Recherche in FD |
Does the Tembest has refueling capability? |
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| Author: | Rowdy36 [ December 17th, 2014, 7:36 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Commonwealth of Recherche in FD |
Yeah it has a retractable refuelling probe on the left side. |
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| Author: | odysseus1980 [ December 17th, 2014, 7:47 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Commonwealth of Recherche in FD |
Could you design a Tempest with the probe open, please? |
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| Author: | Rowdy36 [ December 17th, 2014, 8:01 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Commonwealth of Recherche in FD |
How's this?
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| Author: | pegasus206 [ December 17th, 2014, 9:38 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Commonwealth of Recherche in FD |
Nice work on the Tempest Rowdy |
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| Author: | odysseus1980 [ December 17th, 2014, 11:07 am ] | |
| Post subject: | Re: Commonwealth of Recherche in FD | |
How's this?
Seems good. Thanks.
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| Author: | LEUT_East [ December 18th, 2014, 8:58 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Commonwealth of Recherche in FD |
Beautiful work Rowdy (as usual). |
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| Author: | Rowdy36 [ December 18th, 2014, 1:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Commonwealth of Recherche in FD |
Thanks guys! The final variant of the Tempest, the HAe Advanced Tempest (Tempest Mk5 and Mk6 in Recherche service): ![[ img ]](https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/93700641/Hale%20and%20HAe/HAe%20Advanced%20Tempest.png) (Seen here in their demo paint schemes) This variant bridged the gap between the older Tempest models and the HAe Firebolt. Primarily a sensor and avionics upgrade with an AESA radar, IRST, improved ECM suite and all that other fancy stuff, it also featured the higher power R636 engines with 2D thrust vectoring nozzles developed for the Firebolt and some signature reduction measures including a new air intake design, cleaner tails and up to three optional weapons pods. And some stats for the Tempest variants: General Characteristics Crew: 1 or 2 Length: 17.0m Wingspan: 11.4m Height: 4.75m Wing Area: 41.1m2 (450ft2) Empty Weight: 10,050kg (22,150lb) Loaded Weight: 17,190kg (37,900lb) Max Takeoff Weight: 26,490kg (58,400lb) Powerplant: 2 x RMI F606 Dry Thrust: 56.2kN each (112.4kN combined / 25,270lbf) Wet Thrust: 86.3kN each (172.6kN combined / 38,800lbf) Fuel Capacity: 6000kg internal, up to 8,120kg external Performance Characteristics Max Speed: 2,400km/h Combat Radius: 1,200km Rate of Climb: 50,000ft/min Service Ceiling: 56000ft Wing Loading: 418.2kg/m2 (84.2lb/ft2) T/W ratio: 1.02 Interceptor configuration Design load factor: 9 g Armament Stations: 9 Hardpoints (1 x centreline (wet), 2 x under-fuselage, 2 x inboard (wet, with 2 x additional missile launch rails), 2 midboard, 2 x outboard) Payload: 9,100kg (20,050lbs) Gun: 2 x 30mm Aden cannon Air to Air Ordnance: - AIM-9 Sidewinder - AIM-132 ASRAAM - AIM-7 Sparrow - Bae Skyflash - AIM-120 AMRAAM - MBDA Meteor Air to Ground Ordnance: - AGM-65 Maverick - AGM-88 HARM - ALARM - Brimstone - AGM-154 JSOW - AGM-158 JASSM - AGM-84 Harpoon - Sea Eagle ASM - Sea Hawk ASM - Paveway series of LGBs - Mk 80 series of iron bombs - Joint Direct Attack Munition - Small Diameter Bomb Others: - SUU-42A/A flares/infrared decoys dispenser pod and chaff pod - Electronic countermeasures pod - Hughes AN/AAR-50 thermal navigation pod - Loral AN/AAS-38 NITE Hawk FLIR - Litening targeting pod - RAPTOR reconnaissance pod - Up to 3 x 2,200L drop tanks, and 2 x 1,600L conformal fuel tanks Avionics Ferranti BlueWolf radar Joint Helmet Mounted Cueing System General Characteristics Crew: 1 or 2 Length: 17.0m Wingspan: 11.4m Height: 4.75m Wing Area: 41.1m2 (450ft2) Empty Weight: 11,200kg (24,700lb) Loaded Weight: 18,350kg (40,450lb) Max Takeoff Weight: 27,440kg (60,500lb) Powerplant: 2 x RMI F636 Dry Thrust: 68.2kN each (136.4kN combined / 30,660lbf) Wet Thrust: 96.3kN each (192.6kN combined / 47,160lbf) Fuel Capacity: 6000kg internal, up to 8,120kg external Performance Characteristics Max Speed: 2,400km/h Combat Radius: 1,200km Rate of Climb: 50,000+ft/min Service Ceiling: 55000+ft Wing Loading: 446.5kg/m2 (89.8lb/ft2) T/W ratio: 1.16 Interceptor configuration Design load factor: 9 g Armament Stations: 9 Hardpoints (1 x centreline (wet), 2 x under-fuselage, 2 x inboard (wet, with 2 x additional missile launch rails), 2 midboard, 2 x outboard) Payload: 9,100kg (20,050lbs) Gun: 2 x 25mm Aden cannon Air to Air Ordnance: - AIM-9 Sidewinder - AIM-132 ASRAAM - AIM-120 AMRAAM - MBDA Meteor Air to Ground Ordnance: - AGM-65 Maverick - AGM-88 HARM - ALARM - Brimstone - AGM-154 JSOW - AGM-158 JASSM - AGM-84 Harpoon - Sea Hawk ASM - Paveway series of LGBs - Mk 80 series of iron bombs - Joint Direct Attack Munition - Small Diameter Bomb Others: - SUU-42A/A flares/infrared decoys dispenser pod and chaff pod - Electronic countermeasures pod - Hughes AN/AAR-50 thermal navigation pod - Loral AN/AAS-38 NITE Hawk FLIR - Litening targeting pod - RAPTOR reconnaissance pod - Up to 3 x 2,200L drop tanks, and 2 x 1,600L conformal fuel tanks Avionics Ferranti WolfHound AESA radar Joint Helmet Mounted Cueing System IRST BAe Systems AN/ALE-214 integrated defensive countermeasures system BAe Systems AN/ALE-55 towed decoy Northrop Grumman AN/ALR-67(V)3 RWR |
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| Author: | apdsmith [ December 18th, 2014, 2:07 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Commonwealth of Recherche in FD |
Hi Rowdy, Those look very nice - but wouldn't your max speed (unless that's limited by temperature concerns on the airframe itself), combat radius (not necessarily decrease, but "change") and rate of climb change with the new engines, too? Regards, Adam |
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| Author: | Rowdy36 [ December 18th, 2014, 3:15 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Commonwealth of Recherche in FD |
Thanks for the reply Adam, I'll try and address your (very good) points. I figured the top speed as being airframe limited rather than engine power limited so I left it the same (acceleration would improve significantly though I'd imagine). Combat radius would probably change... not sure how though - more powerful engines would presumably use more fuel but being newer they might be more economical for the power provided. Rate of climb I thought about changing but although engine power improves the wing loading increases as well - not being particularly physics savvy I don't really know what the change would be plus a 50,000ft/min climb rate seems to be the average for 4th gen fighters anyway. If anyone has any more information I'd be glad to hear it 
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