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Excellent drawings Rhade, and very interesting.

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Thank you Kim for the crest

"Never fear to try on something new. Remember that the Titanic was built by professionals, and the Ark by an amateur"

Thank you lads.

I correct couple of things, ad more info... but for now Majhost refuse to show updated pic's

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Majhost have a tendency to do so... It either is because it's heavy traffic on their lines, or they are updating something (maintenance)

I'm afraid lad's that we need to wait for next chapter a couple more days. I have a problem with my pc, don't know if this is hd or graphics or treason! For now whole machine is in service. I was hoping that he will come back yesterday but now I have info that not until next week.

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*nods* Understood brother, have a good day!

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"It is better to type nothing and be assumed an ass, than to type something and remove all doubt." - Me

Yeah I know you'r felling, I have just ordered parts for 380-450€ for my computer, They was starting to miss behave. so I used that opportunity for an upgrade!

Now lads, Polish Wings is alive and kicking...

There should be German chapter now but as it absorb more and more of my time ( the biggest chapter of all by now ) I want to show you some smaller part of this thread. Don't forget about us, subscribe and wait for more...

Italy



In the summer of 1919 Polish military mission in Italy signed a contract for 35 Ansaldo A.1 Balilla fighters, which were delivered since early 1920. They were used in late stages of Polish-Soviet war, equipping single fighter squadron and later also several training units. Around the same time, a decision was made to attempt to limit Poland's dependency on foreign deliveries of war materiel, and a license for Balillas (and A.300 reconnaissance planes) was purchased from Ansaldo. They were produced in the Zakłady Mechaniczne Plage i Laśkiewicz (Mechanical Works Plage & Laśkiewicz) in Lublin, with deliveries starting in july 1921, and amounting (together with planes delivered in 1920 from Italy, and some planes that never actually entered service) to 106 planes, equipping four fighter squadrons and several training units (both training squadrons in air regiments and flight schools). Opinion about Balilla's in Polish aviation was very poor, due to string of fatal accidents (total of 35 were lost to all causes), caused both by certain design quirks and poor quality of workmanship at Plage i Laśkiewicz. By 1928 all A.1's were removed from service.

* as you can see Merian C. Cooper finally receive his rank of captain



Three single-seat reconaissance planes SVA.5 were delivered to Poland in 1920. They served in various units until 1922.



Between 1920 and 1921 total of 90 SVA.10 reconnaissance aircraft were delivered to Polish military aviation. They entered service shortly after cessation of Polish-Soviet hostilities, equipping four squadrons and one school (with many being stored as attrition spares). Day-to-day use proved that these aircraft had extremely fragile construction (even basic aerial acrobation often caused permament deformations of the wings and fuselage), and by 1924 they were all removed from service.

Single SVA.9 trainer/courier plane was delivered to Poland in 1921, and was used as reconnaissance and liason plane until 1923. ( SVA.9 is almost identical with SVA.10 )



In the late 1919 Ansaldo A.300 was chosen as the future (post-war) standard equipment for "line" (reconnaissance-bomber) squadrons of Polish military aviation. Production of 200 planes (plus two "example" planes delivered from Italy in the summer of 1920) was to take place in Poland, in the Zakłady Mechaniczne Plage i Laśkiewicz (Mechanical Works Plage & Laśkiewicz) in Lublin, but Soviet offensive in the summer of 1920 delayed it significantly, and later priority was given to production of Balilla fighters, so the first Polish-built planes were delivered only in april 1922.

Like the Balilla's they were rather unlucky planes (both gaining nickname of "Plage's flying coffins"), and their production was cut to around 75 aircraft. They equipped five squadrons and several training units and were all removed from service by 1927. In 1922 16 more A.300-2 planes were delivered directly from Italy, and although free from fatal flaws of Polish-built A.300's, they were retired together with them. In 1924 another 12-15 deeply modified A.300-4 were delivered from Italy, serving slightly longer - to 1928, after which date they were transferred to aero-clubs (flying there until 1930).



7 Italian-built Nieuport-Macchi M.9 seaplanes were delivered in late 1921, although for almost a year they were stored in crates, as specialist from the manufacturer that were supposed to oversee their montage arrived with so huge delay. That situation took its toll on the condition of the planes, which spent more time in repairs (together with strenghtening of the construction) than in service, until they were finally removed from service in mid-1920s.

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An excellent addition and its nice to see this project ticking along.

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Hood's Worklist
English Electric Canberra FD
Interwar RN Capital Ships
Super-Darings
Never-Were British Aircraft

We (namely Rhade ) had some technical problems, but the whole project is alive and well.

EDIT: Search tags for the Rhade's post above:

Poland, Ansaldo A.1 Balilla
Poland, Ansaldo SVA.5
Poland, Ansaldo SVA.10
Poland, Ansaldo A.300
Poland, Nieuport-Macchi M-9

and below:

Poland, Avro 504K
Poland, Airco DH.9
Poland, Bristol F.2B Fighter
Poland, Martinsyde F.4 Buzzard
Poland, RAF SE.5a
Poland, RAF RE.8
Poland, Sopwith Camel
Poland, Sopwith Dolphin
Poland Sopwith 1 1/2 Strutter

This time a little early, GB chapter. This is the penultimate chapter of this part, in next saturday you will see large German chapter and that will finish early history of Polish Wings.

Great Britain



Single Avro 504 trainer was captured from Bolsheviks in 1920. It was stored until 1923, when it underwent a refit and was assigned to Sekcja Doświadczalna Wojskowej Centrali Badań Lotniczych (Experimental Section of the Military Centre of Aviational Research) in Warsaw. Until it was damaged during landing in 1924 and subsequently scrapped.



Polish military aviation used since mid-1920 total of 20 Airco (De Havilland) DH.9 bombers, equipping two combat squadrons and one training unit until 1925.



Total of 106 Bristol Fighter two-seaters were delivered in the second half of the 1920. First of them already took part in the victorious battle of Warsaw. Ultimately they equipped five front-line squadrons (until 1925-1926) and several training units, where last of them served until 1932.



Single Martinsyde F.4 Buzzard fighter was delivered to Poland in early 1921, although for long time it was only kept in hangar in Warsaw and rarely flown. In 1925-1926 it was a personal plane of the then-commander of the military aviation brig.gen. Włodzimierz Zagórski.



In the early 1920 two RAF SE.5a fighters arrived in Poland. One of them was damaged during landing and scrapped just few days after delivery, second was assigned to 7 Eskadra Myśliwska (7th Fighter Squadron) and served on the front-line until it was shot down in August 1920.



British RAF RE.8 weren't actually used by Polish military aviation, but one damaged aircraft was captured from Bolsheviks in June 1920. It has been included here since there are good sources about the looks of this particular plane.



One Sopwith Camel fighter, owned by American volunteer cpt. Kenneth M. Murray, flew between September 1920 and July 1921 in 7 Eskadra Myśliwska (though in early 1921 cpt. Murray returned to the USA, and sold the plane to Polish military for a token sum of money) It was crashed during landing.
Today an (different) complete Camel can be seen in aviation museum in Kraków.



10 Sopwith Dolphin fighters were delivered to Poland during spring 1920 and in August 1920 they were assigned to 19 Eskadra Myśliwska (19th Fighter Squadron) With two being later transferred to allied Ukrainian aviation. They served until early 1921 and were scrapped about year later.



Three Sopwith Strutters (two of them captured from Soviets) were used by Polish military aviation in 1919-1920, mostly as liason planes.

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