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Author:  Psilander [ August 8th, 2010, 9:18 pm ]
Post subject:  Imperial Swedish Navy
Continuing my old thread here. Starting with a upgraded page about the HSwMS Hurtig-class corvettes.

Old thread

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Author:  Novice [ August 9th, 2010, 5:53 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Imperial Swedish Navy
Very nice looking. You forgot to erase the orange line of the template in front of the ship.
Author:  Mitchell van Os [ August 9th, 2010, 10:34 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Imperial Swedish Navy
What is that green/white/yellow thing at the back of the ship?
It floats in the air at 10 meter zone.
Author:  Gollevainen [ August 9th, 2010, 11:41 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Imperial Swedish Navy
Nice to see you back.
Still waiting eagerly on real life swedish ships and neverwhere's as well.

As for the ship (passing the juvenile comments of little leftovers in the template alltogether), Ive always liked it even back at the old forum. The strong looking hull with normal missile boat armament + extensive electronics is IMO rigth way to approach this size corvettes, rather than trying to step downwards from Frigate type of layout/ordanance.
Author:  Psilander [ August 9th, 2010, 7:28 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Imperial Swedish Navy
oops....I'll fix that

- The small green things are bottom laying mines
- Thanks, you share my opinion of how a FAC/ Patrolboat should look. I think most of the real RSwN ships lack about 20m.
Author:  Psilander [ August 15th, 2010, 9:54 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Imperial Swedish Navy
Swedens respons to the RN Warrior and french la Gloire. But most important the threat from new russian designs.

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Carlous Rex, (Gustav den Store)
Sweden Battleship laid down 1862
Armoured Frigate (Broadside ironclad)

Displacement:
6 031 t light; 6 710 t standard; 7 254 t normal; 7 690 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
305,12 ft / 295,28 ft x 59,06 ft x 22,97 ft (normal load)
93,00 m / 90,00 m x 18,00 m x 7,00 m

Armament:
12 - 12,01" / 305 mm guns in single mounts, 502,11lbs / 227,75kg shells, 1862 Model
Muzzle loading guns in broadside mounts
on side, all amidships
12 guns on gundeck (upper belt level) - Limited use in heavy seas
10 - 4,72" / 120 mm guns in single mounts, 30,58lbs / 13,87kg shells, 1862 Model
Muzzle loading guns in broadside mounts
on side, evenly spread
20 - 0,98" / 25,0 mm guns (4x5 guns), 0,28lbs / 0,13kg shells, 1862 Model
Breech loading guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
Weight of broadside 6 337 lbs / 2 874 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 150

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 10,0" / 254 mm 249,34 ft / 76,00 m 9,22 ft / 2,81 m
Ends: 3,94" / 100 mm 32,81 ft / 10,00 m 9,22 ft / 2,81 m
13,12 ft / 4,00 m Unarmoured ends
Upper: 3,94" / 100 mm 191,93 ft / 58,50 m 8,01 ft / 2,44 m
Main Belt covers 130 % of normal length

Machinery:
Coal fired boilers, simple reciprocating steam engines,
Direct drive, 1 shaft, 2 808 ihp / 2 095 Kw = 12,00 kts
Range 2 300nm at 8,00 kts (Bunkerage = 980 tons)

Complement:
392 - 510

Cost:
£0,995 million / $3,978 million
Author:  ALVAMA [ August 21st, 2010, 3:25 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Imperial Swedish Navy
Damn I've not seen this design lately, It looks great, exactly how a ship of that time sould look like. I'm looking foward to see some more. You're a great point, to look at when design your own! I'll draw a Dutch ship to match this ship soon!
Author:  Psilander [ September 12th, 2010, 6:39 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Imperial Swedish Navy
This is the Royal Swedish navy's first true armoured cruiser. Built after blueprints purchased in france losley based on thiere "la Jeune ecolé" strategy. To commemorate their heritage aswell as the swedish royal family´s french heritage they where named after swedish noblemen famaous for the work with swedish-french relations in the 18th century.

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Axel von Fersen,
Carl-Gustaf Tessin
Hans Mörner

Armoured cruiser
Sweden laid down 1892

Displacement:
8 483 t light; 8 830 t standard; 9 496 t normal; 10 028 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
419,95 ft / 419,95 ft x 72,18 ft x 19,69 ft (normal load)
128,00 m / 128,00 m x 22,00 m x 6,00 m

Armament:
2 - 8,27" / 210 mm guns in single mounts, 282,57lbs / 128,17kg shells, 1892 Model
Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on centreline ends, evenly spread
8 - 5,98" / 152 mm guns (4x2 guns), 107,15lbs / 48,60kg shells, 1892 Model
Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on side, all amidships
6 - 4,13" / 105 mm guns in single mounts, 35,32lbs / 16,02kg shells, 1892 Model
Breech loading guns in casemate mounts
on side, evenly spread
6 guns in hull casemates - Limited use in all but light seas
6 - 2,24" / 57,0 mm guns in single mounts, 5,65lbs / 2,56kg shells, 1892 Model
Quick firing guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread
Weight of broadside 1 668 lbs / 757 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 150
2 - 18,0" / 457,2 mm submerged torpedo tubes

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 5,98" / 152 mm 403,54 ft / 123,00 m 9,71 ft / 2,96 m
Ends: 0,98" / 25 mm 13,12 ft / 4,00 m 9,71 ft / 2,96 m
3,28 ft / 1,00 m Unarmoured ends
Upper: 0,98" / 25 mm 255,91 ft / 78,00 m 8,01 ft / 2,44 m
Main Belt covers 148 % of normal length

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 5,98" / 152 mm 2,95" / 75 mm 5,98" / 152 mm
2nd: 4,13" / 105 mm 1,97" / 50 mm 4,13" / 105 mm
3rd: 0,98" / 25 mm - -
4th: 0,20" / 5 mm - -

- Armour deck: 0,98" / 25 mm, Conning tower: 4,13" / 105 mm

Machinery:
Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
Direct drive, 3 shafts, 19 175 ihp / 14 305 Kw = 21,00 kts
Range 4 200nm at 10,00 kts (Bunkerage = 1 199 tons)

Complement:
480 - 625

Cost:
£0,951 million / $3,806 million
Author:  dc1 [ September 12th, 2010, 9:11 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Imperial Swedish Navy
It´s nice to have you back in the drawingbusiness again. Keep them comming..
Author:  ALVAMA [ September 13th, 2010, 3:06 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Imperial Swedish Navy
What can I say? excellent!!
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