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Author:  Onay [ July 28th, 2013, 6:28 pm ]
Post subject:  RFS Vladimir Putin
Hello everyone greetings from Indonesia,i'm new here and I am very happy joined here,this is my drawing,a fiction Russian modern cruiser,Russia answer for new US destroyer Zumwalt class,primary role is anti-air warfare,but also equiped with heavy surface & land attack capability,successor of Kirov class battlecruiser

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Author:  jabba [ July 28th, 2013, 8:17 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: RFS Vladimir Putin
I can't knowledgeably comment on your design, but the quality of work is high! Welcome!
Author:  Rhade [ July 28th, 2013, 8:43 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: RFS Vladimir Putin
Let's move that to Beginner part of our forum where we all start. ;)

Also how big is Kashtan deck penetration ?
Author:  erik_t [ July 28th, 2013, 9:27 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: RFS Vladimir Putin
Missiles reload from below, so it is considerable. This arrangement would be a nearly-impossible nightmare with Phalanx, never mind Kashtan/Kortik.
Author:  Onay [ July 29th, 2013, 6:37 am ]
Post subject:  Re: RFS Vladimir Putin
@Jabba : thank's man :D
Rhade wrote:
Let's move that to Beginner part of our forum where we all start. ;)

Also how big is Kashtan deck penetration ?
yeah sorry for that Rhade,i'm too excited :mrgreen:

i dont understand what you mean about kashtan penetration deck ?
and that's not a kashtan but palma,i discribe it as a rectracable open\closed close defense system,so the stealthy can be maintained,when palma used,the door opened downward and became the footing for palma,thats why on pict i drawing the right side opened the palma and the left side discribe closed palma
Author:  Rhade [ July 29th, 2013, 6:57 am ]
Post subject:  Re: RFS Vladimir Putin
Onay wrote:
i dont understand what you mean about kashtan penetration deck ?
Most weapon systems are like Icebergs, you see only a part of it and in most cases that smaller part. Deck penetration means how deep in to ship that weapon system go, deck, two ?
Onay wrote:
and that's not a kashtan but palma,i discribe it as a rectracable open\closed close defense system,so the stealthy can be maintained,when palma used,the door opened downward and became the footing for palma,thats why on pict i drawing the right side opened the palma and the left side discribe closed palma

Ah you right, I was too tired and my eyes start to play tricks. ;) That's indeed Kashtan/Palma ( Palma/Kashtan?)

But it's still just to heavy to be use in that way, Kashtan weight was something almost 16 tons ? Palma version is probably lighter, 13-14 tons ? And the deck penetration of this CIWS is big. Maybe try to use some AK-630M-2 with low RCS turret, 4 of them would give you a better def options then 2 Kashtan/Palmas.
Author:  Onay [ July 30th, 2013, 4:37 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: RFS Vladimir Putin
Rhade wrote:
Most weapon systems are like Icebergs, you see only a part of it and in most cases that smaller part. Deck penetration means how deep in to ship that weapon system go, deck, two ?

oh now i know what you mean,you mean like amo storage,wire,radar etc right?,i don't know about Palma DP,like you know hard to get information about russian weapon,i just think Palma like Phalanx,plug n play
Rhade wrote:
Ah you right, I was too tired and my eyes start to play tricks. ;) That's indeed Kashtan/Palma ( Palma/Kashtan?)

But it's still just to heavy to be use in that way, Kashtan weight was something almost 16 tons ? Palma version is probably lighter, 13-14 tons ? And the deck penetration of this CIWS is big. Maybe try to use some AK-630M-2 with low RCS turret, 4 of them would give you a better def options then 2 Kashtan/Palmas.
yep i will try your suggestion :)
Author:  Rhade [ July 30th, 2013, 4:45 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: RFS Vladimir Putin
Onay wrote:
oh now i know what you mean,you mean like amo storage,wire,radar etc right?,i don't know about Palma DP,like you know hard to get information about russian weapon,i just think Palma like Phalanx,plug n play
Yep, thats deck penetration.

Nah, Palma is way to big and heavy. Also missiles are reload from below, I would say that two deck penetration in that case. But I'm no expert. ;)
Author:  iiradned [ July 31st, 2013, 9:26 am ]
Post subject:  Re: RFS Vladimir Putin
Interesting design, just don't care for the name as I consider Putin a dictator and homophobe.
Author:  Colosseum [ July 31st, 2013, 2:30 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: RFS Vladimir Putin
iiradned wrote:
Interesting design, just don't care for the name as I consider Putin a dictator and homophobe.
You had better watch out before he appears outside your house with a VSS and "cuts your thread" so to speak.
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