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Author:  sabotage181 [ July 24th, 2013, 8:31 pm ]
Post subject:  USS Leahy CG-16
ok, here's my attempt at the USS Leahy. I always thought these ships were rather "sexy" when I was in the navy. Hope I did them justice

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and here is my "just for fun" version

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If It is worthy, I'll put it on a template and credit it. I have used the forward directors from Colosseum's USS Belknap as they appear to be identical. I also used the hull, waterline down and sonor dome back.

any questions, comments or suggestions welcome

Joe
Author:  acelanceloet [ July 24th, 2013, 9:58 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: USS Leahy CG-16
I am wondering a bit, have you modified or redrawn the Mk 10 launchers? they look somewhat different.
also, there are some wobbly lines in the bow, sonar dome,flagpole and macks and I do not really agree with the kind of shading you have used on the drawing (I believe that is non-shipbucketish) under the overhangs and in the macks. the anchors look off.
miho was working on a redrawn version of that director some time ago, wonder if anything came from that..........
I should check if these are the correct liferafts for this time era (the spruance line I have WIP all use different ones as build but use ones similar to these later in their carreer)
when is the ship depicted? IIRC, these ships were heavily modified over their service life.

also, why are the canvas railings (which are allowed on the regular shipbucket drawing) only on the just for fun drawing?

for all else, it looks ok, but I have not checked with actual lineart or the parts sheets next to it, so more might be found by me when I do so or when others do so.
Author:  sabotage181 [ July 25th, 2013, 2:20 am ]
Post subject:  Re: USS Leahy CG-16
yes, I changed the launchers as they looked way to big. Do those fall under the "bigger for clarity" clause or am I just paranoid? I noticed the bow, and I was having a hard time making the sonar dome look right, but I have an idea and it'll be on the next correction. I will change the shading. I want to play with shading on my "just for fun ship. On my Talbot post someone told me I couldn't use those vinyl covered rails. what do you think is wrong specifically with the masts? is it the exhausts aren't right or something else? Also upon further research my aft mast is from the early days and I need to correct it as I am trying to represent the 1993 NTU period. As for the life rafts I'm really not sure as these are the only life rafts I've been able to find. But because I'm going for 1993 I think they are ok

If you can find any useful drawing of this ship I would love to see them. If I can get this one right I'd really like to draw the Bainbridge

Thank you for your help ace, I really appreciate it

Joe
Author:  acelanceloet [ July 25th, 2013, 7:53 am ]
Post subject:  Re: USS Leahy CG-16
I would like to see your reference for the way too big launchers then. the missiles on the launcher rails are overscaled, that is true, but the launcher itself should be correct, I have drawn it about a year ago using official sizes or plans, as far as I know.
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what kind of sonar is it? it looks like an SQS-23, of which I drew an good example (possibly from lineart of this hull) and that one is on the USN systems sheet.

IIRC the only thing on your talbot which was not allowed were your regular rails. canvas coverings over these rails are allowed but follow the size of the standard rail (6 pixels tall) most of the time.

we always love it here if people draw an ship not at the end of their service life but start at the beginning and do a few versions for the other modifications. it is not necessary, but it is fun to do, as you learn a lot about the ship while you do so and if you research one year, it is an relatively small step to research others.

the mack outlines look ok to me, but the shading makes them look off and the connection points of the funnels look a bit wrong.
Author:  Gollevainen [ July 25th, 2013, 10:25 am ]
Post subject:  Re: USS Leahy CG-16
Just to remind you guys again that using parts (weapons, radars and so on) from the partsheets is NOT mandatory, if the artist wants to draw them by himself. It's ofcourse adviced to use the partsheet parts but exspecially if the artist feels that he can do better job than the partsheet stuff then by all mean let them. In the end it's up the admins to determ which drawing gets to the bucket vaults so when advicing and teaching new drawers, don't get too fixed on telling them which version (exspecially cut down the "you have to use MY versions of the parts") of which partsheet is to be used . Focus more on the actual drawing style.
Author:  acelanceloet [ July 25th, 2013, 10:44 am ]
Post subject:  Re:
May I remind you then, gollevainen, that I did not tell him to use my parts? I advised it for the sonar yes, as I think that would be easier, and I asked why he thougt the part sheet Mk 10 wrong for the sake of accurate parts on the part sheets. As you say, it is always possible somebody does research that points mine flawed.
Author:  erik_t [ July 26th, 2013, 3:07 am ]
Post subject:  Re: USS Leahy CG-16
Excellent to see Leahy finally represented. I made more than a few efforts myself, only to be stymied by a frustrating lack of quality references compared to most other US classes of the era.

I, too, am a little dubious about the shape of the sonar dome, especially how it blends in with the forefoot.
Author:  Judah14 [ July 26th, 2013, 2:33 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: USS Leahy CG-16
The Mk 141 Harpoon launchers used on this drawing are the old version. There is an updated version, at the US Parts Sheets.
Author:  sabotage181 [ July 26th, 2013, 9:11 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: USS Leahy CG-16
Judah14 wrote:
The Mk 141 Harpoon launchers used on this drawing are the old version. There is an updated version, at the US Parts Sheets.

ARGH!!!! This problem keeps popping up ever time I draw anything, and it's a little but confusing. first off there are a bunch of different drawings of all kinds of stuff, and I'm wondering if these are a; drawn wrong, and there is a better version somewhere. or b; are there different drawings covering what the launchers looked like at different time periods???? If a is the case can we get rid of the incorrect drawings so nub's such as myself quit making these stupid mistakes. If b is the case could we maybe have all the launchers in one area with time frames covered listed conveniently close by?

So other than the launchers does my drawing appear to be somewhat accurate?

Thank you for your comment
joe
Author:  sabotage181 [ July 26th, 2013, 9:15 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: USS Leahy CG-16
erik_t wrote:
Excellent to see Leahy finally represented. I made more than a few efforts myself, only to be stymied by a frustrating lack of quality references compared to most other US classes of the era.

I, too, am a little dubious about the shape of the sonar dome, especially how it blends in with the forefoot.

Thank you Eric, I am using anything I can find, including scale models haha. I've drawn a corrected picture and mailed it to myself from work but its no shown up, so I'll either have to redraw or wait until Monday. I'll redraw :)
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