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Author:  Kretoxian [ March 24th, 2013, 10:45 pm ]
Post subject:  BOU Nabarra -Armed Trawler-
Hello everybody.
I'd like to present myself. I'm a long fan of Shipbucket and it's drawings and finally i dared to do a drawing by myself.
The ship that i've chosen for this first time is the not very known BOU Nabarra.

This ship, a simply cod fishing craft, was built in Hall Russell shipyard in Aberden on 1928 and was originally named Vendabal (Strong Wind), but on December 9th of that same year it was renamed Nabarra.

When Spanish Civil war started, the autonomous Basque government requisitoned her, among many other ships, to create the Basque Auxiliary navy and the Spanish republican navy armed her, originally with a 101,6mm gun on prow and two machine guns on the bridge and later they installed a second 101,6mm gun on stern.

Being part of the Basque Auxiliary navy, she took part in numerous escort actions against various nationalist ships, like a naval skirmish occurred around 40miles outside of the town of Pasaia where the nationalist destroyer Velasco attacked the Nabarra sister ships Bizkaia and Gipuzkoa and, when the nabarra joined her sisters, the made the Velasco flee.

But the most famous action of this ship was for having taken part in the Battle of cape Matxitxako where, the trawlers Bizkaia, Gipuzkoa and Nabarra, escorting another cargo ship, the Galdames, had to fight against the heavy cruiser Canarias in a very unequal battle which lasted for hours and ended with the Nabarra sunk and the other two ships going back to the safe port of Bilbao.

Of the 64 crewmen of the Nabarra only 20 survived and they were rescued by the sailors of the Canarias and later, the captain of this ship, future admiral of the Spanish navy, interceded in favour of these 20 sailors who were given a death sentence but it was pardoned, thanks to him.

The shipwreck has not been found yet.

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Things to consider:

-It's my very first shipbucket pic
-It's not finished (shades missing)
-Don't be too hard with me please, i'm still geting the knack of this :D

my sources :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basque_Auxiliary_Navy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pasajes
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Cape_Machichaco
http://www.marinavasca.eu/images/buques ... b-1937.jpg

for the keel i used this model you can see in the photos of this page:

http://archivoexvotos.revista-sanssolei ... 9/bizkaia/

Technical data:
-Displacement: 1204 tons
-Length: 65,40m
-Beam: 10,40m
-Forestay: 5,85m
-Draft: 5,79m
-Armament: On 101,6mm cannon on prow, two MG guns on the bridge and another 101,6mm cannon on stern.
-Speed: 11knots
-Complement: 42-50
Author:  TimothyC [ March 24th, 2013, 11:23 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: BOU Nabarra -Armed Trawler-
Welcome aboard. You've got a nice start with that drawing.
Author:  eswube [ March 25th, 2013, 7:59 am ]
Post subject:  Re: BOU Nabarra -Armed Trawler-
Welcome to the Shipbucket. :)
That's a nice start indeed, though You could improve the shading, and besides the data You provided says that the draught of the ship is 5,79m, while what You draw is just about 2,44m (16 pixels or so).
Author:  Kretoxian [ March 25th, 2013, 1:46 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: BOU Nabarra -Armed Trawler-
TimothyC wrote:
Welcome aboard. You've got a nice start with that drawing.
Thanks!
Quote:
Welcome to the Shipbucket. :)
That's a nice start indeed, though You could improve the shading, and besides the data You provided says that the draught of the ship is 5,79m, while what You draw is just about 2,44m (16 pixels or so).
Thanks for pointing that! the true is that i was not very sure about the keel and it's shape, but, after checking some books at the library.. i found that the keel was not in diagonal.

I reworked it and added some shadows:

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How it is now? i think she's fine...
Author:  Shipright [ March 25th, 2013, 2:48 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: BOU Nabarra -Armed Trawler-
Are the guns fore and aft the same? I note there is an indent at the top of the aft one but not the fore? Is that due to detals between the port and starboard profiles?
Author:  Kretoxian [ March 25th, 2013, 3:49 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: BOU Nabarra -Armed Trawler-
Shipright wrote:
Are the guns fore and aft the same? I note there is an indent at the top of the aft one but not the fore? Is that due to detals between the port and starboard profiles?
Yes they are, thanks for pointing it. The aft one was a pixel taller than the other one. I corrected it so now both of them are looking the same and also gave some more shadowing where needed:

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Could i say that i've finished my first shipbucket ship?
Author:  eswube [ March 25th, 2013, 3:59 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: BOU Nabarra -Armed Trawler-
It's better, but I'd say that it still can be improved. ;)
I don't know this ship, so my remarks will be only about "formal" issues, rather than the wether any details fit the reality more or less.
As for the shading - on SB we accept the convention that shades under something should be generally one pixel thick, and lighter if the overhang is small, or darker when it's big (I'm referring to that shading under the bridge).
Also, on rounded elements, like stacks, ventillators etc. their round-ness is shown by one (or bit more if they are large) line of lighter-shade pixels on the side facing bow (that's where the light is "coming from"), and one (or bit... ) line of darker-shide pixels on the side facing stern.
Also, maybe You should try to find a nicer-looking propeller in the parts sheets.
And things like cables, ropes, as well as ladders are usually not drawn in black.
Author:  Kretoxian [ March 25th, 2013, 6:15 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: BOU Nabarra -Armed Trawler-
eswube wrote:
It's better, but I'd say that it still can be improved. ;)
I don't know this ship, so my remarks will be only about "formal" issues, rather than the wether any details fit the reality more or less.
As for the shading - on SB we accept the convention that shades under something should be generally one pixel thick, and lighter if the overhang is small, or darker when it's big (I'm referring to that shading under the bridge).
Also, on rounded elements, like stacks, ventillators etc. their round-ness is shown by one (or bit more if they are large) line of lighter-shade pixels on the side facing bow (that's where the light is "coming from"), and one (or bit... ) line of darker-shide pixels on the side facing stern.
Also, maybe You should try to find a nicer-looking propeller in the parts sheets.
And things like cables, ropes, as well as ladders are usually not drawn in black.
The shadow under the bridge's "balcony" is three pixels wide because, acording to the photos i saw, this one for instance:

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or this other one:

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that "balcony" was very wide, it almost reached up to the handrail of the ship (sorry but i don't know if the word handrail is the proper naval term but you get the meaning). That's why i thought that one pixel shadow wasn't enough. Anyway, if it's a very strict rule of SB i'll of course, obbey it and change it.

About the roundness... i'll try to improve it... i guess that the only areas needing to be rounded are the stern part of the hull and the stack.

The propeller is already changed.

In reality it's not drawn in black, it's drawn in dark grey, it's just that it can't be distinguished very nicely. However, considering that they were common ropes and not metallic cables, which colour should i use? I would not like to use the same brown as the masts...

Thank you for your support! My goal is to make almost every ship that served in the Basque Auxiliary navy!
Author:  TimothyC [ March 25th, 2013, 6:24 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: BOU Nabarra -Armed Trawler-
A few points.
  • All windows on the bucket use a standardized blue - 1873FF
  • You've got some double-black lines around the forward window that could use to be cleaned up
  • I'd tone down the lines on the hull
Author:  eswube [ March 25th, 2013, 7:08 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: BOU Nabarra -Armed Trawler-
Kretoxian wrote:
The shadow under the bridge's "balcony" is three pixels wide because, acording to the photos i saw, this one for instance: (...)

that "balcony" was very wide, it almost reached up to the handrail of the ship (sorry but i don't know if the word handrail is the proper naval term but you get the meaning). That's why i thought that one pixel shadow wasn't enough. Anyway, if it's a very strict rule of SB i'll of course, obbey it and change it.

About the roundness... i'll try to improve it... i guess that the only areas needing to be rounded are the stern part of the hull and the stack.

The propeller is already changed.
I understand that the "balcony" is very wide, but we show it not by wider shade, but by darker shade. ;)
About the roundness - the ventillator (that pipe next to smokestack) should be shaded too.
And I'd suggest You change propeller again. :)
Look here, for example:
http://www.shipbucket.com/forums/viewto ... =16&t=3938&

I wish You all the best with drawing all the planned ships! :)
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