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Author:  Austria [ June 16th, 2012, 4:44 pm ]
Post subject:  A bunch of NS vessels needing analysis and help

http://irnavy.imgur.com/
Browse and critique please.
Note on accreditation: These were originally not accredited at all since I'm relatively new to paint and failed to find out how to write text in paint. Now I know and will probably update uncredited vessels in the future with appropriate credits, while refurbishing them.

Author:  Colosseum [ June 16th, 2012, 5:04 pm ]
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You MUST fix crediting before we can proceed.

Author:  Austria [ June 16th, 2012, 5:20 pm ]
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And Done

Author:  Zephyr [ June 16th, 2012, 7:54 pm ]
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Umm ... that Majestic class seems a bit, well, enthusiastic, with the liberal use of VLS tubes. A few dozen too many in fact. One hit and that ship goes up like a roman candle. You may want to rethink that entire design, honestly.

Author:  Trojan [ June 16th, 2012, 8:03 pm ]
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Alt-Starhemberg I think seems a bit enthusiastic as well and I dont Know about the Sea Dart on the Type 44
Laudon class^

Author:  Austria [ June 16th, 2012, 8:29 pm ]
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Zephyr wrote:
Umm ... that Majestic class seems a bit, well, enthusiastic, with the liberal use of VLS tubes. A few dozen too many in fact. One hit and that ship goes up like a roman candle. You may want to rethink that entire design, honestly.
I know it's gonna go up in a massive conflagration if hit, but whence then is the fun being all protected? This is for rp-purposes, and assumption is that one Majestic is never going to travel alone, nor without ability to handle two dozen incoming Moskits without serious issues. Furthermore, we could sit here and discuss the utility of other arsenal ships, but that's aint the point right?

Type 44 is borrowed from here.

Author:  Trojan [ June 16th, 2012, 8:35 pm ]
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:oops: :? ohh well thats embarrassing then

Author:  klagldsf [ June 17th, 2012, 12:35 am ]
Post subject:  Re: A bunch of NS vessels needing analysis and help

Still it makes no sense to have VLS tubes and an old-fashioned GMLS on the same vessel. VLS effectively replaces GMLS.

I can only think of two broad examples off the top of my head that violate this: the Australian Perry upgrades, because they couldn't fit anything bigger than Self-Defense-length Mk 41s on the bow so the Mk 13 GMLS is retained to utilize long-range missiles, and the Indian Navy technically uses both a more traditional GMLS and VLS set-up though the VLS tubes are reserved solely for BrahMos (and are so big and specialized it's impractical to fit anything else).

Author:  Zephyr [ June 17th, 2012, 4:12 am ]
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Austria wrote:
Zephyr wrote:
Umm ... that Majestic class seems a bit, well, enthusiastic, with the liberal use of VLS tubes. A few dozen too many in fact. One hit and that ship goes up like a roman candle. You may want to rethink that entire design, honestly.
I know it's gonna go up in a massive conflagration if hit, but whence then is the fun being all protected? This is for rp-purposes, and assumption is that one Majestic is never going to travel alone, nor without ability to handle two dozen incoming Moskits without serious issues. Furthermore, we could sit here and discuss the utility of other arsenal ships, but that's aint the point right?
There is also the issue of those -whatever they are- on top of and to either side of the bridge. Do you really want that much magazine space taking up room inside your control spaces? Those have got to go. Seriously.

Author:  klagldsf [ June 17th, 2012, 4:47 am ]
Post subject:  Re: A bunch of NS vessels needing analysis and help

Austria wrote:
I know it's gonna go up in a massive conflagration if hit, but whence then is the fun being all protected? This is for rp-purposes, and assumption is that one Majestic is never going to travel alone, nor without ability to handle two dozen incoming Moskits without serious issues. Furthermore, we could sit here and discuss the utility of other arsenal ships, but that's aint the point right?
See, this is the issue with gameplay issues vs. real-life. This board tends to be oriented towards real-life. We'll tolerate going through a design for the purposes of gameplay issues, but it's best to point out and explain specifically what the purpose of what you're going for is (and it might be best to post such in the Non-Shipbucket forum).

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