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Author:  Abisnail [ May 19th, 2012, 9:55 pm ]
Post subject:  River Cruiser template (Fictional & Noobish)
Hello Shipbucket Forum!

Noob calling, I’ve been creating little ships In MS Paint for a while now and posted a few on Deviantart and have various folders full of mainly fictional designs. Found your site the other day and my mind literally melted there is so many designs and so many breathtaking drawings. I am amazed so many people have the same little hobby as me!

Anyway, I have been looking through the site for a little while and it has dawned on me how professional you all are so I have been slightly scared of posting anything. Please do not be too mean as I tried to follow the rules laid out and this is just a first time quick sketch up of a fictional ship. Would be great if you guys could point me in the right direction, maybe suggest a few things that a extreme noob needs to know.

Anyway here it is so far..... Pritty bad I know

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Thanks

Abi
Author:  KHT [ May 19th, 2012, 11:11 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: River Cruiser template (Fictional & Noobish)
Don't worry, none of us bite here. Welcome to SB! :D
Looks like a good design. I'd say the drawing has some good potential, so first thought would be to keep working on this by coloring it, shading to preferd degree, add smaller details and such. :)
Only real advice I can give at this stage would be to use the standard SB templates: http://shipbucket.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=1243.
Good luck with this and future drawings, and best wishes from KHT!
Author:  Abisnail [ May 20th, 2012, 6:19 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: River Cruiser template (Fictional & Noobish)
Hi KHT Thanks for the link and the kind words they were very helpful.

I coloured the boat, wanted to use a more interesting colour than just white so that explains the somewhat odd colour scheme although I think it works. Added some bits and bobs using parts others created and messed around a little with the structure.

Anyway for my first design I don’t think its too bad, keen to do some more.

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Abi
Author:  Raxar [ May 20th, 2012, 6:41 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: River Cruiser template (Fictional & Noobish)
It's actually quite good. I'd add some shading to the funnel to make it look more rounded, and raise the bridge a few pixels. Right now it's got a pretty low ceiling.
WhyMe did a bunch of Russian boats similar to this a while back: http://shipbucket.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=2164
Author:  KimWerner [ May 20th, 2012, 6:50 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: River Cruiser template (Fictional & Noobish)
Welcome on board. Nice litle ship. Shaiding is the next step, and maybe an underwater hull (the last is not a demand, but more and more are doing it!). Your radar mast is very thin. I suggest you do it 3 pix thick ;)
Author:  KHT [ May 20th, 2012, 7:03 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: River Cruiser template (Fictional & Noobish)
Hm, nicely done. Only things I notice is the anchor, which IMO looks very big for such a small ship, and that little thing at the aft deck that ropes/cables should go through(can't remember the name) is not colored to match the hull. Otherwise, a very good drawing for a beginner. :)
Author:  TimothyC [ May 20th, 2012, 7:52 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: River Cruiser template (Fictional & Noobish)
You've got a good start, but I'd like to offer a few pointers (mostly style stuff).

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  • In red I've marked out the screw protector. It's a metal frame there to prevent the hull from getting to close to the dock/pier and having the screw hit anything. On a craft this size, the one you have drawn is rather larger. I'd shrink it down to either the size of the one I have in (1) or in (2). I'd also go with the color scheme I've shown there for shading it.
  • In pink I've marked out a few pixel errors and a slight railing issue. I've also shown the standard for how railing are supposed to change position as the angle of the deck forces a pixel shift. Also, ladders tend to be colored in the railing color, and integrated into the railings. I've pinked out a few pixels where I would remove the railing.
  • Finally, in purple, I've noted the text. When making the text, remember to turn of anti-aliasing, to remove the fuzziness of the text.
All in all, a great start, and welcome aboard. :)
Author:  WhyMe [ May 20th, 2012, 9:08 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: River Cruiser template (Fictional & Noobish)
Welcome, Abisnail.
I've drawn quite a few river cruisers (for example: Portuguese, Polish and Hungarian) and I noticed that they share several common characteristics.
  • The freeboard is usually lower than on your design and the portholes go on the hull pretty close to the waterline - all due to much calmer waters in rivers than in open sea.
  • The windows can be larger for more natural light and better views in the passenger cabins.
  • The masts should be shorter or foldable for safe passage under bridges.
  • The safety equipment is usually limited to life rings and boats.
Or you can just call your ship a sea-going ferry/tourboat (like this one for example) and leave everything as is :D
Author:  Thiel [ May 20th, 2012, 9:27 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: River Cruiser template (Fictional & Noobish)
I agree with WhyMe. The ship fells more like an open ocean tour boat of some sort (And some quite nasty ocean at that, judging by the bow) rather than a river boat.
Author:  Abisnail [ May 20th, 2012, 10:14 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: River Cruiser template (Fictional & Noobish)
Hiya.

Thanks for all the replies everyone they have been really helpful! I have spent most of the day now fiddling around with it to get it just right shrinking things and moving stuff and now quite happy how it turned out.
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Welcome on board. Nice litle ship. Shaiding is the next step, and maybe an underwater hull (the last is not a demand, but more and more are doing it!). Your radar mast is very thin. I suggest you do it 3 pix thick
Still considering the underwater hull, might come back to that later.
Quote:
ou've got a good start, but I'd like to offer a few pointers (mostly style stuff).

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In red I've marked out the screw protector. It's a metal frame there to prevent the hull from getting to close to the dock/pier and having the screw hit anything. On a craft this size, the one you have drawn is rather larger. I'd shrink it down to either the size of the one I have in (1) or in (2). I'd also go with the color scheme I've shown there for shading it.
In pink I've marked out a few pixel errors and a slight railing issue. I've also shown the standard for how railing are supposed to change position as the angle of the deck forces a pixel shift. Also, ladders tend to be colored in the railing color, and integrated into the railings. I've pinked out a few pixels where I would remove the railing.
Finally, in purple, I've noted the text. When making the text, remember to turn of anti-aliasing, to remove the fuzziness of the text.


All in all, a great start, and welcome aboard. :)
Thanks for the welcome, One problem in that I'm not sure where to turn off anti-aliasing.


In reply to WhyMe and Thiel, I am interested in drawing up some river tour boats, (I love some of the early soviet ones you have done Why me). Think I shall do some more edits, and then let this one go, and make a start on some different designs, defiantly some more riverboats because they interest me quite a lot. I’ll search some images and do a little research try some new designs

Anywho heres my latest edit:

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Thankyou for the very warm welcome, I appreciate it

Abi :)
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